Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($25)
Button ($24.95)
Hero ($25.45)
BB ($21.90)
UTG ($5.28)
MP ($39.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with . CO posts a blind of $0.25. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, Button raises to $3, Hero (poster) calls $2.90, BB calls $2.75, UTG folds, CO folds.

Flop: ($9.50) , , (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks,Button bets $21.95, Hero calls $21.95, BB folds.

Turn: ($31.45) (2 players)

River: ($31.45) (2 players)

Final Pot: $31.45

Results in white below:
Button has 8c 8h (flush, ace high).
Hero has Qh Qs (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Button wins $31.45.
This was only my second hand at the table so i had no reads but something just didnt seem right about his big bet, normally I would have bet but for some reason i chose to try and slow play. Should I have figured the flush and folded? or is this just another one of those bad luck hands I shouldnt worry about?

I would have reraised before the flop with QQ to force semi-marginal hands like AJ, JJ-88 to fold. Given your scenario i would have also bet at least 3/4ths the size of the pot, but probably the entire size of the pot) with 3 clubs on the flop. i usually don't give people credit for flopping the flush with a board like that. i think i remember reading somewhere that the chances of flopping a flush are around .6%. so flopping that set you are very very likely to have the best hand, not sure what the odds of another club coming on the turn or river, (but i'm pretty sure it has to be around 30% tops) so you need to be the aggressor in that scenario. As it turns out, he make a horrible move going all in with his eights, and he got paid off for it. In my opinion (which honestly isn't worth much) it was a good call, taking into consideration the mistakes that were already made pre and post flop.

thats my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by HSM

Should I have figured the flush and folded? or is this just another one of those bad luck hands I shouldnt worry about?

what? i dont get whats the problem here.. u got ur money in on the flop as the favourite to win the hand and just got outdrawn.. it happens... ur probably about ~65% to win there.. no need to worry here, u made the right move, overtime u will come out the winner.

its not really a bad luck hand perse, if it was something like him holding AA vs ur QQ.. then yea, thats a bad luck hand..

anyways preflop, i would have re-raised to $9 instead of just calling.

This guy bets crazy. But it's still a hard call since you don't have any reads. With only 8 out's I think I would have folded.

Originally Posted by pocketje

This guy bets crazy. But it's still a hard call since you don't have any reads. With only 8 out's I think I would have folded.

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He didn't need "outs", he was favored to win the hand against any holding other than pocket aces and a hand suited in clubs. The other guy was drawing at nine outs (9 remaining clubs), but couldn't be sure that his would take the pot if a club were to come on 4th or 5th street...

bad play gets paid off in this case

Originally Posted by tenaciousDel

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He didn't need "outs", he was favored to win the hand against any holding other than pocket aces and a hand suited in clubs. The other guy was drawing at nine outs (9 remaining clubs), but couldn't be sure that his would take the pot if a club were to come on 4th or 5th street...

bad play gets paid off in this case

He played it right. I just have problems with this kind of maniac's.

And I don't think he made this bet to hit a flush. I think he just tried to steal the pot.

I'm going with Pocketje on this one. The bet size on the flop tells me he's afraid of the flush and (more importantly) the FD. Unless you have a read on this guy, and know him to value bet his hand, I'm going with TPTK and he wants the hand over now.

As it turned out, you had the best hand and got out drawn...it happens...it sucks, but it happens...

My opinion good call. He raised it 12xbb preflop and with that flop he had to have AA or have raised with KJc or a worse hand to be ahead of you. If he didn't raise it all in on the flop it would be tougher to call, but you don't go all in on the flop with that much $ left if you flop the flush.

Originally Posted by pocketje

He played it right. I just have problems with this kind of maniac's.

And I don't think he made this bet to hit a flush. I think he just tried to steal the pot.

oh, i agree. i thought u were saying the poster should have folded because he was drawing to 8 outs. just a misunderstanding

99.99% of the time in this sitaution, you've got the best hand. The A and Q are both on the board, so what was he raising with? KJc, KTc? I don't buy it.

His play PF and on the flop screams pocket pair JJ or below. He's screaming "go away". Any made flush with position would surely slowplay, or at least make a bet that could be called against two players who just checked into the flop.

Your opponent makes a bet that only gets called by a better hand, and you call him with that better hand. He still has some outs, but you're way ahead here.

Keep making these plays, because they do pay off in the long run.