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  1. #1
    River Rat
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    Default How should I have approached this??

    It was a bit after the break and this was the guys first hand at the table and I had no read.. He limped when it was folded around to him with which is very unusual for one of these turbo satellites.... I was above average chips by about 4K and was 13th overall.... Looking back with his hole cards I'm guessing that no matter what I bet I was going to get raised all in either PF if I raised him, or after the flop when he flopped TPTK and I hit TTP..... These are the kind of hands that are killing me at this stage in these tournaments.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (9 handed) converter

    saw flop|saw showdown

    SB (t17660)
    Hero (t9775)
    UTG (t9480)
    UTG+1 (t12510)
    MP1 (t7935)
    MP2 (t8405)
    MP3 (t5320)
    CO (t18510)
    Button (t6665)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
    5 folds, CO calls t800, 2 folds, Hero checks.

    Flop: (t2000) , , (2 players)
    Hero bets t8925 (All-In), CO calls t8925.

    Turn: (t19850) (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: (t19850) (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t19850

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Qd Tc (two pair, queens and tens).
    CO has Ac Qs (straight, ace high).
    Outcome: CO wins t19850.

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    flop bet was a little large, I would have gone for a check-raise, but hell, what are you gonna do about the result?

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    all in preflop.

    i dont know what your quetsion is besides that. im guessing you lost the hand. fold flop?? no way.
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    Yes I lost the hand to a runner runner straight..... If I would have raised PF, he re-raises me all in I'm guessing and I would have laid it down but is Q 10 off a raising hand in that situation.. Honestly I was kind of zoning after a looong day on the road..... Just one of those hands I dont know how I could have gotten away from it any way I look at it....

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    I'm still trying to figure out what the question is. You played PF well and got all your money in when the other guy was drawing to basically 3 outs and a 1% chance to hit runner runner...Lady luck caught you cheating on her with skill and decided to get even...nothing like a woman scorned.
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    Just Dude, the best players in the world have like a 3% chance of winning a large field tournament. A turbo tourney reduces that edge even more. You can't win them all... so don't sweat it when stuff like this happens... you got all in with 85% or so pot equity. That's the goal
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    heh.. whats the problem here? u get all ur chips in with the best hand on the flop.. if u get outdrawn, then u get outdrawn.. not much u coulda done there..


    anyways, im with gder on the all in pf play

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    I think you need to come to terms with the fact that even when you're 99.5% to win, one out of 200 times you're going to lose.

    I was watching a replay of a WPT event about a month ago, and I forget most of the details, but here's the hand:

    Player 1: A7
    Player 2: AK

    Late in the tourney, A7 goes all in and called by AK (who is just barely covered by the A7 player).

    Flop comes

    K Blank Blank

    The other guy is now drawing to 0.5%!!!!! He needs runner runner 7's to win.

    Turn: 7
    River: 7

    And AK goes home totally dejected. Now, if this can happen to people in major tournaments, it can surely happen to you.

    Keep your chin up, you got all your money in as a huge favorite, and this is that 3rd time out of 100 that the piano falls out of the sky and lands on you instead of the other guy.

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    Yeah, I guess at the moment I was rather dejected about it, but really if I would have raised PF I would have been comitted at least 1/2 my chips and would have had to call, on the flop with no reads on the guy and him limping in I had to assume I was best and I was and I got outdrawn... So after reading the replies and thinking more I just flat got outdrawn when I had the best hand when I got my money in..

    The last 3 tournaments (WSOP satellites) I played in I finished 3rd, 7th, and 8th in chips when then finished so I know I'm doing right more often than not... Thanks everyone for the replies and good words and for this forum!

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    Worrying about hands like this will drive you insane. Its just one of those things that happens once in a while where the other guy caught an amazing slice of luck to beat you. Shake your head for a moment, then move on.

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