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12-05-2004, 02:54 PM
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NL poker: pre-flop
Early position:
-raise 4X BB, with one re-raise, I raise again, with two re-raises I probably fold
Middle position: with no one in front
-minimum raise, with one re-raise, I raise again, this time larger, with two re-raises, again I fold
Middle position: limpers
-flat call, easy to get away from if I don't hit
Middle position: raise in front
-i will raise 3X BB and see what happens
Late position:with no one in front
-raise 3X BB, with one re-raise, i will flat call for the flop
Late position:limpers
-raise 6X the BB or fold if a lot limpers, with one A or K on the flop, i still won't be in front
Late position:raise in front
-minimum raise, with a re-raise I either raise or fold
I am not very good at limit, however, with people in front, I most likely cap or fold.
Of course, this is all player dependent 
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12-05-2004, 04:12 PM
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In response to your response bonchkid, when i say i want to play a multiway pot i mean 3-4 people. If its raised in early position and a few people call, then i might put in a reraise, but if it looks as though just calling will get another player into the pot I will make that play. The reason being is that if I make an ace, king, or better on the flop, it is usually the best hand in a 3-4 person pot, and more money is going to go in then if just the original raiser is in the pot.
Of course, playing ace king that way also all depends on if its a cash game or tournament. In a cash game, i think that in the long run that play will make you more money, but in a tournament, if not reraising caused you to get outdrawn by someone who would have folded, the whole touranment could be over for you.
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12-05-2004, 04:27 PM
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With five people in the pot, your Aces or Kings might not be best. And if they are best, it probably won't last. You will get people calling you down, leaving you vulnerable to being burned on later streets.
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12-06-2004, 07:45 AM
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NL cash game. I will raise 4xBB for any position if no raise in front of me. I might raise more if I'm on the Button and no one has limped. That way one of the blinds might think I'm in a steal and go all in. I will usually re-raise a lot with this hand. I don't mind going all in with this at any time. If there is huge action I'l usually lay it down. If its bet, raised and re-raised, I'll give it up.
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12-06-2004, 09:13 AM
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and if your new..
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Originally Posted by Announced Tilt
NL poker: pre-flop
Early position:
-raise 4X BB, with one re-raise, I raise again, with two re-raises I probably fold
Middle position: with no one in front
-minimum raise, with one re-raise, I raise again, this time larger, with two re-raises, again I fold
Middle position: limpers
-flat call, easy to get away from if I don't hit
Middle position: raise in front
-i will raise 3X BB and see what happens
Late position:with no one in front
-raise 3X BB, with one re-raise, i will flat call for the flop
Late position:limpers
-raise 6X the BB or fold if a lot limpers, with one A or K on the flop, i still won't be in front
Late position:raise in front
-minimum raise, with a re-raise I either raise or fold
I am not very good at limit, however, with people in front, I most likely cap or fold.
Of course, this is all player dependent 
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This is about what I do (probably a bit more gentle with sometables.. prime catch is the guy playing AX s who can't put down an aceif it hits): I dont' like heavy early bets -- these can fire off all-ins on looser tables.. Turn and river betting is about who's left..reading the other players..if they limped in then look innocent after heavy preflop ..as if youve got KK and worried about the ace yourself.. if they hit on the flop they could make your life very unpleasant.. AK wins most preflop.. postflop it is a disaster.. just bet on the river to deflect bluff attempts..
AK can be a real victim hand.. like QQ it's very hard to put down..The ppl I've stacked with a low trip on the flop just because they had AK AND hit are countless..
As for limit poker.. I think it's the one without the slider thing...but I could be wrong
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12-06-2004, 07:28 PM
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Again im talking about playing ace king like that in middle position where your pretty sure you will get 3-4 people in the pot and not 5 or more. I understand that it is a very vulnerable hand if you hit an ace or king in a 6 way pot.
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12-21-2004, 10:55 AM
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For the people who like to re-raise preflop with AK in NL, will you call an all in re-raise or even half of your stack? Or do you accept that you are beat and fold.
You're a coin flip, but all you have is Ace high. This does definitely depend on your opponent and how you too have played each other to this point, but you are putting him on a pair. Will you put in all in on a coin flip?
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12-21-2004, 10:58 AM
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AQ is the one that I have more trouble with.
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I think this is what Doyle meant by calling AQ a trouble hand. Many situations will leave you standing around with your dick in your hand when you catch a good card and get played back at.
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12-23-2004, 08:32 PM
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Preflop, I will raise 3-4x the BB. If I'm called and out of position, I play mostly weak (i.e. check the flop if I don't hit). If I'm in position, I play very strong. I would rather take the blinds before the flop if I can w/AK, because I have a bad habit of overvaluing it when I'm out of position.
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12-23-2004, 08:54 PM
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in a no limit game
up front first to act 75% of the time I will limp and reraise. this is not a hand you like a lot of opponents with and this tactic usually scares the hell out of people getting you heads up with the initial raiser.
the other 25% i will usually raise somewhere between 3-5X the blind
up front with a limp I raise 4-5X the blind, with a raise in front I'll usually flat call unless the guy is loose then i will reraise heavy.
After that it really depends, if I'm opening the pot I'll raise 3-5X the blind, with limpers I'll raise a little more, typically my standard 3-5X + 1 more bet for each limper. if it's raised I'll play it much like I do up front.
I don't like reraising preflop with this hand against quality opposition. In my mind if you are willing to reraise you should be willing to go all in. this is why i will reraise a weaker player with this hand and not a stronger one, I'll call all in against the weaker player (they rarely will do this however) but probably won't call an all in raise from the strong player, unless stack sizes and pot odds come into play.
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