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  1. 03-29-2006 #1
    roland888
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    Default Pre Flop Pair???

    Hello,

    I am always contemplating this move, I am hoping someone can guide me here...

    It is early in a multi table tournamnet and I got an average stack size. I get pocket 99 or any pocket pair for that matter, should i move all in?? Should I raise? or just limp in?

    Ive seen AK go against a 99 who raised all in and LOSE bc they never hit their pair... is this what I should do?

    Thanks!!

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  2. 03-29-2006 #2
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  3. 03-29-2006 #3
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    Pocket pairs vs two overcards is about a coinflip, slightly in favor of the pair usually. Anyway you should probably play any pair under TT for set value in my opinion. TT and up is good for an open raise, though TT,JJ,QQ can all be laid down in different circumstances.
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  4. 03-29-2006 #4
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    move all in if this is a turbo. if its regular bet the pot preflop. if somone comes over the top call.
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  5. 03-29-2006 #5
    PJ of TheGame
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    Roland, the problem comes in the hands that actually call you. If you knew that you would only ever get called by 2 overs, then it's okay.

    But when you put that much action out there, it limits the hands that will call you down. You'll mostly see AK and other (higher!) pocket pairs, and against that range you're hurting. Half the hands are a coinflip, and the other half have you drawing thin. You're not going to get called by the hands you want to see (only one over, or an underpair).

    So the answer is, it really depends on your odds. You're only going to get win about 1/3 of the time you get called against that range (and it gets worse as your PP goes down). Say you get called half the time.

    Half the time you win the pot. The other half you lose your stack 2/3, and win your stack plus the pot 1/3. In that case, the pot would have to be right around 1/4 of your stack size for the play to be breakeven.

    So the answer is... if the pot is significant, it can be a good play. But if the pot isn't, it is a loser.
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