I thought this hand might provoke some discussion about approaches to SnGs

5th hand, no reads, I've hit the fold button 4 times so far.

***** Hand History for Game 3819378653 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $55 Buy-in Trny:21375305 Level:1 Blinds(20/40) - Saturday, March 25, 16:26:55 ET 2006
Table Table 95619 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Cubs_2234 ( $2000 )
Seat 2: evil_jonster ( $3080 )
Seat 3: thanbai1121 ( $880 )
Seat 5: LPLP_007 ( $2000 )
Seat 6: Pozini ( $2000 )
Seat 7: aLLiiiiBaBa ( $2000 )
Seat 8: cantbluffm3 ( $1960 )
Seat 9: yurmom44 ( $2140 )
Seat 10: PeteySmooth ( $1940 )
Seat 4: Irexes ( $2000 )
Trny:21375305 Level:1
Blinds(20/40)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Irexes [ ]
LPLP_007 folds.
Pozini folds.
aLLiiiiBaBa folds.
cantbluffm3 folds.
yurmom44 folds.
PeteySmooth folds.
Cubs_2234 folds.
evil_jonster calls [40].
thanbai1121 calls [20].
Irexes checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
thanbai1121 checks.
Irexes checks.
evil_jonster checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
thanbai1121 checks.
Irexes checks.
evil_jonster bets [95].
thanbai1121 calls [95].
Irexes calls [95].
** Dealing River ** [ ]
thanbai1121 checks.
Irexes checks.
evil_jonster is all-In [2945]
thanbai1121 folds.
Irexes folds.
evil_jonster does not show cards.
evil_jonster wins 3350 chips

Hmmmmmm, I'd probably have done the same with that kicker

bet ther flop and give up to any resistance.

That is what I usually do.

Originally Posted by Cpt. Bloodclot

I agree too...I'd bet about 90-120 on the flop, if both call i'd check/fold the turn.

the all in on the river is suspcious, but theres no way you can call in with K7...too much beats you, SB could easily have played K9, KT, or QJ.

The all in was made by the button. Either way you have to bet the flop as said. I cant see what the player could have been playing that the 4 helped them, other than a set, but TT or KK is raising pf, and unless the guy hit quads with the 4 i doubt he has trips, though A4 is a possibilty. Could have had a flush draw with the diamonds and bluffed the river. 2945 into a pot of 405 is quite suspicious, but you are in no shape to challenge this becuase of the passiveness on the earlier streets.

If you bet the flop and are called, what's the move on the turn?

And if it's to check-fold the turn and river, are you betting the flop due to the value of the king or as an attempt to take down the pot?

depends on what cards come on the turn, and if one of both called.

I geuss the call of our flop bet could either indicate a draw or a monster, but what monster do we see out there? Possible QJ

The bet on the flop, in my opinion would be for information. We have no clue where your hand stands here. I geuss i do want to take down the pot here, the value of our hand is minimal at best. I mean, if you were planning on calling a 3/4 pot bet on the turn out of position, why not make the bet on the flop. Atleast you get some fold equity.

It's just over a 1/4 of the pot called on the turn based almost entirely on the hope of checking the river and winning it with the king with putting in any more chips (only need this to work 1 in 3 times).

My point is that if you are going to fold to any reraise and check fold the turn or river, does it matter that you have a pair on the flop and would any two cards do? If not why not?

I'm not looking to press my point here, I'm interested in how others play this as I'm aware this could be construed as very passive though I stand by it (and please bear in mind the small blinds, later on I'm playing this very different).