Hand #30465872-16 at SnG-0003b (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
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Started at 20/Mar/06 19:06:42

antsecho is at seat 0 with 4750.
anne54 is at seat 2 with 1390.
CADDDave is at seat 3 with 1450.
Madgenius42 is at seat 4 with 2120.
balduno is at seat 6 with 1130.
jumper9509 is at seat 7 with 1430.
littlebighorn is at seat 8 with 1360.
PowerfulRog is at seat 9 with 1370.
The button is at seat 0.

anne54 posts the big blind of 30.

antsecho: -- --
anne54: -- --
CADDDave: -- --
Madgenius42: -- --
balduno: -- --
jumper9509: -- --
littlebighorn: -- --
PowerfulRog: Ks Ah

Pre-flop:

CADDDave folds. Madgenius42 folds. balduno calls.
jumper9509 calls. littlebighorn folds. PowerfulRog
raises to 150. antsecho folds. anne54 calls.
balduno folds. jumper9509 goes all-in for 1430.
PowerfulRog goes all-in for 1370. anne54 folds.
jumper9509 is returned 60 (uncalled).


Was reviewing my PT and this was one of my recent bustout hands. Thoughts?

How can I give any useful information with only 16 hands on him?

From what I saw he was fairly tight during those 15 hands before this. Probably a 30 vpip for those hands. No preflop raises from him yet. Nothing crazy.

Originally Posted by bonchkid

He played 5 of the last 15 hands you've seen with him and you're calling him fairly tight?

I'm just saying he's not an off the wall maniac. Tight is exaggerating.

considering its probably a race, i would look at the pot odds.
2:1 i call in a heartbeat. you dont have 2:1, but you got a few limpers. lets look at villians play. he limps pf, then moves all in after you raise. if he was a tight player, what hands could he do this with? if he was loose agressive, i would be more inclined to call. is 16 hands enough to judge him on? i dont know.

ill put it this way. if i had him pegged as loose agressive, had seen him make this play before, or had seen him make a pf raise with QQ+ that wasnt all in, i would call. if it was shorthanded and the blinds were smaller, and we could put a larger, even stealing hand range on the villian, i would call.

sng pwr tools says the call is SLIGHTLY -EV if he is a tight player, which confirms what i said i guess. however sng pwr tools cant factor in the fact that he limped and he probably wouldnt limp with aces, the fact that you raised and he re raised, (its just telling us if he pushes and you cold call), and that there are a few limpers in the hand which give us a bit better pot odds.

i know i have made this call plenty of times, but ive called knowiing the player was a loosey goosey, or the blinds were alot bigger and he could be stealing.
so until i know otherwise, i fold, because its not that hard to find another spot that isnt so break even. if you have any info that leads you to belive its a better than break even play, then call.

[QUOTE=Aces-o-8s]I have seen a limp/re-raise all-in several times with 99-JJ but only a few times with pp QQ, KK or AA. Any time I get this dumb-ass play pulled on me, I figure I'm about 55-45% dog to a mid-pair. If I can't absorb a potential loss with enough chips to re-build or I need to make a double up soon, I will usually fold. A coin-flip so early in a tourney without sufficent chips to continue on is just too expensive.

limp/re-raise all-in with 99-JJ I figure is an attempt to get HU with a slight advantage - this is a player who knows what he's doing. I also figure he'd be just as happy to have you fold and forfeit your preflop raise without a fight.

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or they do it because they are getting to be short stacked and are afraid of playing AQ, AQ, or AT post flop. i see this all the time.