I know its never a good idea to chase straights with a Pair on the board. But I called the small turn bet (and small raise) and hit. For some reason I felt deg was slowplaying a 7.... which is why I reraised small hoping he would go over top.... but then his all in bet worried me.... maybe he had a full house... I call none the less after thinking about it for 30 secs.

was this a easy call? or was I justifed in being worried?


PokerStars Game #4379001287: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/03/22 - 19:30:49 (ET)
Table 'Mimas V' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: gmglenn ($1.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Autologic ($6.40 in chips)
Seat 3: deg68 ($2.60 in chips)
Seat 4: mervandshell ($3.90 in chips)
Seat 5: TRICKY NINJA ($5.15 in chips)
Autologic: posts small blind $0.05
deg68: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Autologic [6c 9d]
mervandshell: calls $0.10
TRICKY NINJA: folds
gmglenn: folds
Autologic: calls $0.05
deg68: checks
*** FLOP *** [2d 7s 7d]
Autologic: checks
deg68: checks
mervandshell: checks
*** TURN *** [2d 7s 7d] [8c]
Autologic: checks
deg68: checks
mervandshell: bets $0.10
Autologic: calls $0.10
deg68: raises $0.10 to $0.20
mervandshell: calls $0.10
Autologic: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [2d 7s 7d 8c] [5h]
Autologic: checks
deg68: bets $0.20
mervandshell: folds
Autologic: raises $0.20 to $0.40
deg68: raises $1.90 to $2.30 and is all-in
Autologic: calls $1.90
*** SHOW DOWN ***
deg68: shows [7c 3d] (three of a kind, Sevens)
Autologic: shows [6c 9d] (a straight, Five to Nine)
Autologic collected $5.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.50 | Rake $0.25
Board [2d 7s 7d 8c 5h]
Seat 1: gmglenn (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Autologic (small blind) showed [6c 9d] and won ($5.25) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 3: deg68 (big blind) showed [7c 3d] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 4: mervandshell folded on the River
Seat 5: TRICKY NINJA folded before Flop (didn't bet)

the minimum bet check raise on the turn means that this guy has a very strong hand, on this board that means atleast trips. It would seem that he's betting his hand for value and is not worried about being outdrawn, which means either a fullhouse or hes not very clever. it would probably be best not raise the river, but once you're reraised you have to call, unless you have a read on the player that tells you he wouldn't put in a reraise without the FH. The straight is only possible with 64 or 69, its quite possible that he wouldn't spot it.

But your right, as a general rule of thumb its probably best not to chase flush or str8 draws on a pair board, as you might be drawing dead already

Originally Posted by Auto

I know its never a good idea to chase straights with a Pair on the board.

Not true, it all depends on odds and the what you think the pther players are. There are no absolute rules in poker, except that one :P.

Fold PF, 69o is a little weak even with 5-1 odds, but given the odds, an arguement can be made to call this. I prefer folding here.

Bet 2/3 pot on the flop, likely this missed everybody and a bet here will take it down, but checking is ok.

Turn, you check, other guy min bets, Make this .50 to go right now. It's a bluff bet, and CR'ing here will take this down right now.

River, WEAK. What were you hoping for here? A call or a push? So what if the guy has a seven, you have a straight. Next time, make a pot sized bet here, not that pansy-assed min raise. If you are going to do a value bet, get soome value from it. And Lose the FPS.

Originally Posted by Marm

Fold PF, 69o is a little weak even with 5-1 odds, but given the odds, an arguement can be made to call this. I prefer folding here.

Bet 2/3 pot on the flop, likely this missed everybody and a bet here will take it down, but checking is ok.

Turn, you check, other guy min bets, Make this .50 to go right now. It's a bluff bet, and CR'ing here will take this down right now.

River, WEAK. What were you hoping for here? A call or a push? So what if the guy has a seven, you have a straight. Next time, make a pot sized bet here, not that pansy-assed min raise. If you are going to do a value bet, get soome value from it. And Lose the FPS.

I totally agree that my river re-raise bet was very weak. A bigger re-raise value bet would have made the call alot easier. Not totally convinced betting .5 on the turn is a great play, but thanks for all your input