Hand #30489409-25 at SnG-0026q (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
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Started at 21/Mar/06 18:04:12

PowerfulRog is at seat 0 with 1530.
whopsterg is at seat 1 with 2030.
onadraw62 is at seat 3 with 2975.
pearlsnapman is at seat 4 with 2350.
BlJak00 is at seat 5 with 3140.
gntlgnt is at seat 6 with 1875.
_MAV_ is at seat 7 with 1100.
The button is at seat 7.

PowerfulRog posts the small blind of 15.
whopsterg posts the big blind of 30.

PowerfulRog: Td As
whopsterg: -- --
onadraw62: -- --
pearlsnapman: -- --
BlJak00: -- --
gntlgnt: -- --
_MAV_: -- --

Pre-flop:

onadraw62 folds. pearlsnapman folds. BlJak00 folds.
gntlgnt folds. _MAV_ folds. PowerfulRog raises to
135. whopsterg calls.

Flop (board: Ac 8d Ad):

PowerfulRog checks. whopsterg checks.

Turn (board: Ac 8d Ad Kh):

PowerfulRog checks. whopsterg checks.

River (board: Ac 8d Ad Kh 9h):

PowerfulRog bets 200. whopsterg raises to 870.
PowerfulRog goes all-in for 1395. whopsterg calls.


Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

PowerfulRog shows Td As.
whopsterg shows 8s Ah.




Showdown:

PowerfulRog has Td As Ac Ad Kh: three aces.
whopsterg has 8s Ah Ac 8d Ad: full house, aces full of eights.


Hand #30489409-25 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
whopsterg wins 3060 with full house, aces full of eights.
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I feel like this was a horrible play on my part. Critique please.

Your reraise on the river is horrible and unnecessary as he just told you he had an Ace and there's a good chance you are therefore beaten.

I'd bet the turn and you'd probably get called which would make it easier to lose fewer chips on the river. Whichever way you cut it here you are going to lose chips.

Occassionally I bet out on flops like this hoping to catch action from the pocket pair, but I think you are basically buggered on this one.

Yup, I'm a funny guy.

And your thinking is "he can't have an Ace with 2 on the board and one in my hand".

The kind of player who would reraise the river to chase off a bluff I can't see checking the turn
and the flop.

I'd call the river reraise (no way you can lay it down) but I'd be very happy and surprised if he had a weaker ace than mine.

And I totally agree this is a situation where you are going to lose a ton of chips.

As to the Marm one, Superficially similar situations Beav

Posted the same time as Eclipse - that's a much better answer than mine.

Originally Posted by Irexes

1. And your thinking is "he can't have an Ace with 2 on the board and one in my hand".

2. As to the Marm one, Superficially similar situations Beav

No, that isnt my thinking. My thinking is that the hand has been checked down and he could be raising with a lot of different hands because he doesn't think WE have an ace.

2. I have no idea how to quantify the similarity, but I would be much more afraid of being behind in Marm's hand than in this one.

Originally Posted by Eclipse86

yeah but in marm's situation that was a MTT.. this is a SNG.. 2 different games right?

i think i have to agree with irexes here on the river all in re-raise.. that is very unecessary.. if u think about it, when villian raises you on the river, the only thing u truly beat there is a bluff..

This is definitely not a "only beat a bluff" situation.

You beat pocket pairs, you beat any K (except AK), you beat any 9 (except A9) You also beat most of the aces the guy would limp with or K9 or 98 that doesn't realize his two pair doesnt mean shit.

I would personally rather take the chance of ending up with 3k chips than leaving myself with 500 and seeing that I was ahead. Really, what are the odds of making a comeback with 500 chips? There are places where MTTs and SnGs differ, but most of that is in pre-flop and sizing your bets.

And if I am wrong I would rather jump in another game then struggle with 1/3 or less the chips of everyone else.