PF: I raised 6BBs because the table was pretty loose. My standard 4BB was getting 4-5 callers.

Flop: The villain in this case loves the CR. I'd seen him do it with top pair on numerous occasions and since he didn't raise PF, I figured maybe KQ.

Could/should I have gotten away from this?




PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($5.35)
MP3 ($15.84)
CO ($9.85)
Button ($1.90)
SB ($10.19)
BB ($2.91)
UTG ($2.68)
UTG+1 ($2.90)
MP1 ($3.61)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
UTG calls $0.05, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.3, 5 folds, UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($0.72) , , (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.4, UTG raises to $1.3, Hero raises to $5.05, UTG calls $1.08 (All-In).

Turn: ($8.15) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($8.15) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $8.15

Results in white below:
UTG has Jc 2c (two pair, jacks and twos).
Hero has Ac Qd (one pair, queens).
Outcome: UTG wins $5.48. Hero wins $2.67.

You probably COULD have, but to be honest I would have played it exactly the same. You can't say you played it wrong, that guy's just an ass.

Ok, the PF play is good, i love the pf play..

BUT.


u screwed up the flop play..
on the flop u need to bet alot harder then just 55% of the pot.. put in a potsize bet instead..

if u encounter resistance then, thats when u start thinking about whether ur hand maybe good or not...


on the flop, i dont like ur re-raise.. if the guys shown that much strength on the flop, chances are he has better then TPTK, so re-raising him here means ur just going to be putting in all ur money as an underdog a majority of the time. this is a major -ev move in the long run.

when he raises you on flop u have to put him on a good hand.. if hes a loose PF player, i start thinking QJ.. if hes a tight aggressive solid player, i start thinking AQ, JJ, or 22..

if hes just being an ass and trying to bluff you, then a call on the flop would be sufficient to show him you have a hand and to tell him to backdown from the bluff..

this is why u NEED to bet the flop harder, in some cases people will take a stab at the bluff whenever they see a weak flop play. ur 55% potsize bet on the flop was extremely weak and many times u will be played back by someone trying to bluff u off the flop.

the last thing u would want is for someone to bluff u out of a pot when you have TPTK. so with that being said, BET STRONGER!

I guess I played the flop the way I did because of my emotions. This guy had check/raised me a few times, forcing me to make some big laydowns. So this time I just kind of said "enough is enough" and went over the top of him. That's bad poker....I know that's bad poker.

That being said, thanks for the advice.

I think that's a silly post.

Betting bigger there isn't going to accomplish anything that his bet didn't. You're not going to get someone to fold a hand that has TPTK beat. The only thing that accomplishes is getting someone to fold Q-x or J-x or other weak holdings that you'd love a call from. In addition, if you bet the pot there, with the stack sizes being what they are, you've pretty much guaranteed that you are going to be all-in. Or are you saying that you'll fold TPTK here against a known bluffer getting better then 2-1 (if he raises)?

After that bet is where it gets tricky though. He raises you, and with his short stack you know you're playing for the whole thing. There's 1.5 overlay, and his ~2 stack. This means you'll have to risk 2 bucks to win 3.5. You'll have to win almost 40% of the time here. So what hands could he have?

If he has A Queen, the most likely ones are KQ, QJ. Against QJ you're drawing pretty thin... 3 outs. KQ is super.
Could he make this play with JT? Sure, I would and have. Another good hand for you.

There's also other possible holdings... QQ, JJ, 22. You say he's aggressive, so I would discount the big set, but that would leave 22. Ultimately, I would also discount 22, because A. people slowplay hands that strong, and B. you've shown the ability to make laydowns.

That leaves 4 likely holdings, two of which you have drawing thin, one which has you drawing thin, and one which has you crushed. I would think that against his range, and with him being a tricky aggressive player, you have to be playing for his stack here. So, that being said, I love the play.

There's plenty of fish who wouldn't make this play with less then 2-pair. But you say you've SEEN him do it! In that case you simply cannot fold for the odds you're getting.

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