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    River Rat Cpt. Bloodclot's Avatar
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    Default Should i have just let go?

    $5 MTT satelite to $50 MTT

    top 14 all get seat, doesn't matter if you're 1st or 14th.

    28 people left i'm 4th in chips


    ------HAND 1------
    Game #1922128933: Hold'em NL (200/400) - 2006/03/18 - 17:14:03 (BST)
    Table "£10K SATURDAY 2117088 - 2" Seat 7 is the button.
    Seat 1: Terri3112 (5697 in chips)
    Seat 2: Whippe003 (11760 in chips)
    Seat 3: xxpegasus (4785 in chips)
    Seat 4: Kenny2 (2405 in chips)
    Seat 5: Yipes007 (9132.50 in chips)
    Seat 6: eric 32 (2207.50 in chips)
    Seat 7: ArthurDen (4470 in chips)
    Seat 9: linius (2865 in chips)
    Seat 10: Astaroth (12935 in chips)
    linius: posts the ante 50
    Astaroth: posts the ante 50
    Terri3112: posts the ante 50
    Whippe003: posts the ante 50
    xxpegasus: posts the ante 50
    Kenny2: posts the ante 50
    Yipes007: posts the ante 50
    eric 32: posts the ante 50
    ArthurDen: posts the ante 50
    linius: posts small blind 200
    Astaroth: posts big blind 400
    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to Astaroth [ ]
    Terri3112: calls 400
    Whippe003: folds
    xxpegasus: folds
    Kenny2: folds
    Yipes007: folds
    eric 32: folds
    ArthurDen: folds
    linius: folds
    Astaroth: raises to 1600
    Terri3112: calls 1200
    ----- FLOP ----- [ ]
    Astaroth: bets 1600
    Terri3112: calls 1600
    ----- TURN ----- []
    Astaroth: checks
    Terri3112: bets 2447 and is all-in
    Astaroth: calls 2447
    ----- RIVER ----- []
    ----- SHOW DOWN -----
    Terri3112: shows [ ] (A Flush, Ace high)
    Astaroth: shows [ ] (High Card Ace)
    Terri3112 collects 11944 from Main pot

    Does this belong in river rats, or should i have played it different?

    I donked away the rest of my chips a few hands later, and end up 22nd
    I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favour and who then asks: Am I then a cheat? for he wants to perish.

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    Check/fold this flop at this stage in tourney.

    That's my play.

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    i'd like to hear more about your thinking with the check-call on the turn? What are you trying to accomplish with that move?

    chris

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    I push pre-flop.

    Terri has a small stack compared to the blinds.

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    Given the structure of the payouts and your chip position, I would have just called preflop out of the big blind, last to act and out of position. Then check/fold if you don't hit the flop. If it were a regular tourney payoff then I think your play is fine preflop/flop. In a satellite like this with your chip position I get in cheap and don't play unless I hit a flop unless I have a preflop monster.
    I agree with PTP above that I don't get the check/call on the turn. I would have put the guy on a medium pocket pair. You donked off alot of chips.
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    damn, missed it was a flat payout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartTimePoker
    i'd like to hear more about your thinking with the check-call on the turn? What are you trying to accomplish with that move?

    chris

    From the way he played the hand i was pretty sure he wasn't ahead or not that far ahead that i wasn't still getting the correct odds to call...he basically had to make that bet on the turn no matter what he had, i checked to him to see how he'd do it, but sorta hoping he'd check as well. I was tempted to fold, but I just felt commited, probably unnecessarily, to the pot.

    I probably was in a position where i could have afforded to let him take the pot when i missed the flop...it was nice to know my read was right, but there were more important considerations to attend to...

    I was in similar situation a couple of works ago, but took the opposite approach and started playing very tight, folding preflop AK in EP etc. and i ended up going out on the bubble because i misjudged how long the touney would carry on for and passed up my last two good chances to win more chips.

    if i had to play the hand again, i would probably just push allin preflop...but i suspect he would have called anyway...
    I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favour and who then asks: Am I then a cheat? for he wants to perish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Bloodclot

    I was in similar situation a couple of works ago, but took the opposite approach and started playing very tight, folding preflop AK in EP etc. and i ended up going out on the bubble because i misjudged how long the touney would carry on for and passed up my last two good chances to win more chips.

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    I hear what you are saying, because I have done the same thing in a satellite before and finished on the bubble, but:
    There are three or four people at your table that won't last two orbits at the maximum. There are four tables going, so maybe 12 people are getting knocked out very shortly. At MOST you need to win one hand to place top 14, and you may not even need that. I would wait until a better opportunity. AQs is a good hand, but you are out of position against someone UTG that limped with a pretty low stack, usually has a decent hand, alot of people have medium pocket pairs in this circumstance, you have to think you needed to improve to win.
    I would bide my time and if I felt like I needed to win some more chips to place at least pick a spot where I had a made hand preflop like a pocket pair in later position and push preflop instead of calling off chips with a hand like AQ unimproved out of position.
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    First of all you foul mouthed imbecile. I think the value of forums is immeasurible. Forums are the one place you can learn the game. Forums are a learning medium. The problem I find in forums are, your post. We are talking to hot headed, juveniles, who have no clue what they are doing. You have to weed through posts such as yours to get valuable information.

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    you're probably right...i think i took it too personally, i felt that i KNEW i had the better hand i wanted to make him pay, when i could easily have walked away.

    Anyway, in another sat now for same tourney...1st out of 15 left, top 5 get through...if i stuff this one up then i'm officailly a donkey
    I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favour and who then asks: Am I then a cheat? for he wants to perish.

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    I check fold after the flop. Doesn't matter if you're ahead it's about qualifying.

    Good luck tonight.

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