Flush would bet for sure... but no flush card could call PF...

Set... I dont think soo... Why betting trips with that much power here, he is not the PF raiser... only hand that calls you or fireback beats you. AK, AQ, would have bet, and trips too...

I really think this guy is on an A or a FD...

Just my 2 cents...

KJ

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Originally Posted by Girevik
Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!

You are such a fucking dork.

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Milled corn, sugar, malt flavoring, high fructose corn syrup, salt, iron, niacinamide, sodium ascorbate and ascorbic acid (vitamin C), pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin (vitamin B2), thiamin hydrochloride (vitamin B1), vitamin A palmitate, folic acid, vitamin B12, and vitamin D. To maintain quality, BHT has been added to the packaging.

Dietary Exchange Per Serving:
1 1/2 Carbohydrates


Ingredients:
Milled corn, sugar, malt flavoring, high fructose corn syrup, salt, sodium ascorbate and ascorbic acid (vitamin C), niacinamide, iron, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin (vitamin B2), thiamin hydrochloride (vitamin B1), vitamin A palmitate, folic acid, BHT (preservative), vitamin B12, and vitamin D.

Dietary Exchange Per Serving:
1 1/2 Carbohydrates


Tell me which is which genius.

you eat that shit evrey morning?
get a cerial with different "grains". many grains and nuts. more complex breakfast.

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mmmmmmmmm........pyridoxine hydrochloride.

Whos the dork that went and looked up the Ingredients! LOL.

Seriously, can't tell. Guess he can eat them both..... Just gotta make sure he is getting the right amount each day.

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The trouble with raising 99 is that three things can happen.

1) You flop a set - sometimes this will pay off big as a flop like A9J has potential for someone else to get enough of it to give you their stack

2) You get three undercards ie. 268 - Here you are likely to win the pot but not get much action unless someone chases a draw.

3) You get 1 or more overcards AT4, KJ7 etc - You are often going to take down the pot with a bet but you are only going to get action if you are beat and when you are beat you will pay for it with whatever attempt you make to take down the pot on the flop. Also if you are really stubborn you could lose a bundle.

Essentially you end up betting not the value of the 99 but the implied strength of your hand based on the preflop raise. This gives worse hands a great excuse to lay down and ensures better hands call or reraise. In the situation you were in why get involved?

dam Irexes, you need to post like this more often. thank you. the way you lay out the thought process deserves an award or something.

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The reason I raised 99 utg:

1. Take it down on the flop when a "good" flop hits

2. Probably stack somebody if I hit a set (I'd check this flop if I hit a set in most cases, hoping he hits on turn... either that or he bets into me on flop in which I'd raise him)

3. The blinds are relatively small, and I made a pretty large (5xBB) raise PF. Although it's a signifigant amount, it's not too hard to get away from if I have to on the flop.

So basically this raise will do one of 3 things.

1. Win an average pot by taking it down on flop

2. Win a huge pot if I hit a set.

3. Lose an average pot by giving it up on flop (such as here)

In rare cases, I might lead out the flop, and be raised and have to fold. That's not happening very often. Not often enough to discourage this raise PF.

If we don't factor in the times that I bet flop, get raised and fold, this is a profitable play. Even factoring it in I believe it probably is a relatively profitable play.

Teach me rex.

Thanks chaps, I'm not saying I'm right just how I think about these things and there's plenty of occassions I would raise 99.

I think that more often than you give credit Rog there are also the times you are called on the flop rather than raised. What then? the turn and the river will bring additional opportunities to get beat. 99 is a hand that generally gets worse the more cards are on the board and it becomes harder to play through the streets.

I agree that the situation could be played profitably, though I'm more skeptical about the long term value but my main point though is that there are better situations to risk chips and this is a marginal situation that I would prefer to avoid.