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  1. #1
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    Default PLO, on a nutty table

    Table is pretty crazy, VPIP 70% PFR 7% ish

    I turned the nuts with a good re-draw, however the river paired the board how do you think I did?

    Cryptologic
    Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
    Blinds: $0.50/$1
    10 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $255
    UTG+1: $98.50
    Hero: $104.25
    MP1: $83.75
    MP2: $90.50
    MP3: $171
    CO: $29.50
    Button: $78.50
    SB: $64.40
    BB: $257

    Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with
    UTG calls $1, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $1, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $5.5, MP3 folds, CO calls $5.5, Button folds, SB calls $5, BB calls $4.5, UTG calls $4.5, Hero calls $4.5.

    Flop: ($33, 6 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

    Turn: ($33, 6 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $33, MP2 calls $33, 4 folds.

    River: ($99, 2 players)
    Hero bets $31,

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    why didn't you raise PF? You could have raised to like 36 or so couldnt you?

    I would have bet the flop too.

    river sucks.

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    I think your good, if he had a set on the flop he would have to bet it (assuming he knows what he's doing), unless he caught quads on the river, you either have a split, or you'll take it down.

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    you played it exactly like i would.

    but im not an omaha player. at allllllll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis68
    why didn't you raise PF? You could have raised to like 36 or so couldnt you?

    I would have bet the flop too.

    river sucks.

    I was in crap position, hence the no-raise PF and the players behind me I couldn't buy the button. I never re-raise with AA unless I can get all-in or push someone else all in, since it just gives your hand away.

    I should have bet the flop, but really thought the PFR would have.

    agreed the river card sucked, and I was wondering how people would play it. I bet 1/3 the pot, representing the FH. I certainly couldn't check it or else it would be too easy to bluff me off the pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishodeath
    I think your good, if he had a set on the flop he would have to bet it (assuming he knows what he's doing), unless he caught quads on the river, you either have a split, or you'll take it down.
    Well he would have bet out on the flop with KK for sure, but he had to have liked his hand somewhat to call the pot sized bet on the turn no? Maybe KT with a club/spade draw, a club draw or KQxx was what was quite scary.

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    I'm not crazy about that bet on the end. Unless this guy is a nut and will call you with a hand that won't win. I can't see any hand he could hold and call the river bet that you can beat, give him a chance to bluff.

    Your bet on the end leaves you pot committed to call a re-raise, which would be about $40 more, or you may fold the best hand or a split pot to the re-raise. If you're willing to put $33 in on the river with what is either A) the best hand or B) dead in the water, why not give this guy a chance to bluff on the end?
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    What was the result?
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    What if the player bets the pot? I see the river bet as a blocking bet more than anything else. Of course, you have completely announced your hand a good player will reraise you with anything, but there probably aren't players that good or confident at that table.

    PF, I wouldnt really care about position with that hand. The pot is going to be so big anyway, you either have something to be all in with or you don't.

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    Phyto, do you have any info on this player?

    there are only a couple things that can happen

    1) he folds you gain $0 I'd put this at 40%

    2) he re-raises another $40 and you have a decision this at 40%
    a) you call and win $70 (river) 10%, the other 30% you lose
    b) you call and lose $70
    c you fold and lose $30

    3) he calls 20% probably 50/50 you win lose or tie
    a) you win $30
    b) you lose $30

    I think checking is better

    1) he bets some small amount, $30 or less which you'ld call
    2) he bets the pot in which case you have a decision
    3) he just surrenders the pot to you

    Of course a little background on this player would help
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