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Thread: Mistakes here?

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    Poker Professional Pok 7's's Avatar
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    Default Mistakes here?

    Sorry about the format but the hand converter makes it look even worse for Prima skins. Looking back I know I should've raised the flop bet, but I figured I can keep the 2 players that checked the flop in by just calling as opposed to making them call 2 bets cold.

    It didn't seem like that threating of a flop, no flush possibilities, and anyone with something like AK probably would've raised PF, so I went for a slow play. Was this a bad flop to do this with? On the turn I couldn't put him on 2 pair and with him leading out and reraising I actually called his hand before the showdown. At least I might be getting better with my reads.

    ** Anna [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 Fixed Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

    Hero is on the button with
    pulper80 posted the small blind - $0.25
    rockythunder posted the big blind - $0.50
    DonkGirl folded
    Havercamp called - $0.50
    north48 called - $0.50
    zidane6999 called - $0.50
    Hero raised - $1.00
    pulper80 folded
    rockythunder folded
    Havercamp called - $1.00
    north48 called - $1.00
    zidane6999 called - $1.00

    ** Dealing the flop:
    Havercamp checked
    north48 checked
    zidane6999 bet - $0.50
    Hero called - $0.50
    Havercamp called - $0.50
    north48 folded

    ** Dealing the turn:
    Havercamp bet - $1.00
    zidane6999 called - $1.00
    Hero raised - $2.00
    Havercamp raised - $3.00
    zidane6999 folded
    Hero called - $3.00

    ** Dealing the river:
    Havercamp bet - $1.00
    toxophilite called - $1.00

    Results in white:

    Havercamp shows: Jack of Spades, Queen of Clubs
    Hero mucks: 10 of Diamonds, 10 of Spades
    Havercamp wins $14.50 from the main pot
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    raise the flop, raise the flop, and raise the flop.
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    with 3 ppl in...brute aggresion...

    raise the flop.

    nothing you can do about that hand.
    he was probably even going to call a 2 raise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottieboy
    raise the flop, raise the flop, and raise the flop.
    I almost always do, however it didn't appear to be too menacing of a flop that I though I needed to worry about and what do I really need to fear from the limpers? That's what I'm trying to figure out do people think this was a bad flop to slowplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pok 7's
    it didn't appear to be too menacing of a flop that I though I needed to worry about and what do I really need to fear from the limpers? That's what I'm trying to figure out do people think this was a bad flop to slowplay.

    When I have TP, and there is a possible OESD on the flop, I will raise it everytime. In my opinion, its a bad time to slowplay. This is limit, so for one, I would have to start building the pot. If you don't, you'll be giving them a cheaper turn card, and two, if their straight hasnt been completed, they are more likely now to not call a river bet after you've shown aggresion.
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    Yes I think this was a bad board to slow play. The board was coordinated for a straight. One of the things that I read early on in learning is to figure out what the nut hand is for the flop and see if you have it or if you think anyone else is likely to. The nut hand on that flop is KK but there is also the OESD. So on that flop, I want to bet hard now, if I get a raise back I am probably going to let it go. If I get a call, then I will play it by ear. Hopefully everyone will fold to my bet though.

    As for raising the flop to make it more expensive, yes you need to make it expensive, but a lot of times, when the flop is draw heavy alot of times it is better to check the flop and raise the turn when the bet doubles. Doing that cuts down the odds dramatically, where as if you bet the flop it will improve their calling odds on the turn just enough to make a call profitable. I am not saying I play that deep, I have just read it before.
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    I really didn't see T,8,K as having an OESD on the flop though, at the turn yes anyone with a J had the OESD, but maybe I just wasn't seeing it on the flop.
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    QJ never occured to you after he re-raises you on the turn?
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    That's what I put him on after the turn, but I didn't see an OESD on the flop, there's alot of hand possibilites that could be there on the flop. I was torn between keeping players in to build a pot as opposed to raising the CO which might have drove the other 2 players out. Risk/reward situation.
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    i cap all streets with this hand..
    maybe not river, and turn. but definately flop

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