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About LinkBacksI just felt beat by somebody's set after the bet, raise, reraise before it got to me. With hindsight, obviously it's a bad laydown, but in general is it ok to let this go with that action in limit?
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is Button with,
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UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.
Flop: (12.50 SB),
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(6 players)
BB bets, UTG raises, UTG+1 3-bets, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, Hero folds, BB folds, UTG calls.
Turn: (9.75 BB)(2 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG calls.
River: (11.75 BB)(2 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG calls.
Final Pot: 13.75 BB
I didn't check the results part for some reason, but UTG won with A5 against UTG+1 and his 44.
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Thread: Giving too much credit?
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03-12-2006 #1River Rat
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Giving too much credit?
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03-12-2006 #2Mike McDermott
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I don't think it was a bad laydown. Someone with A could've been chasing the draw in which case you'd have been beat anyway if they hit. I think with the amount of action it was a solid play.
BOSS
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03-12-2006 #3Poker Professional
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raise this shit pf.. omg...
raise flop......
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03-12-2006 #4River Rat
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That's the worst possible rationale for it being a good laydown.
Originally Posted by SeanyBullets1
Eclipse: I know, I know. I just sometimes can't convince my self the raise with JJ with so many people in the pot already is +EV.
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03-12-2006 #5PokerForums God
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Yes. The only way to play this hand anyworse would be to fold it preflop. No... in fact the only way to play this worse would be to fold it on the river after capping each street. FOlding PF would have saved you money. Originally Posted by Eclipse86
Seriously, you just cost your self a lot of bets here. Cap this hand EVERY street. This type of play will quickly (and accurately) get you labeled as a fish.
Not trying to be harsh here, but were you trying to fold these things before the deal was even done?
Seriously, Raise PF, isolate the raiser, get this HU if you can. And given the action, You would have taken a good pot at the showdown.Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.
Luck is a Residue of Design.
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03-12-2006 #6Check Raiser
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DEFINANTLY raise preflop.
Some rationale?
It makes it 3 bets for the guys after you to cold-call. A HUGE error with almost anything. It makes it 2 more bets for the limpers to call, which should get some of them out. It's also a large error to call. You make money by your opponents making mistakes... give them the chance.
Yeah, and A flops and the raiser bets... okay, you're beat. But when an over doesn't flop, you allready got all those poor calls in there to pad your pot. You only get paid with an overpair preflop... once your opponents miss they won't pay you anymore. So make them do it!-You may not know this, but poker is a game of incomplete information.
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03-12-2006 #7River Rat
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Lesson learned. Thanks guys.
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03-12-2006 #8PokerForums God
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Want some more abuse? We can give you some......
Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.
Luck is a Residue of Design.
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03-13-2006 #9PokerForums God
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I don't agree with capping every street - of course if you had raised PF you would have more information.
But you are playing scared here.
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03-13-2006 #10River Rat
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I probably need it. This hand was torturing me trying to get to sleep last night. I was definitely scared, particularly after the flop, when I just could see this thing getting capped by everyone all the way around and going down big time so I decided to try and save some money. Originally Posted by Marm
Trying to get to sleep, I just realized that if I had had AA instead of JJ, I probably would have been more resolute and/or stubborn and stuck with it, thinking I'm not letting AA go that easily. But in this hand, there isn't much difference between JJ and AA post flop.
On the bright side, it was a rare hand, which made it worth posting. I'm not in the habit of folding the best hand. I laugh at the posts of others in which they claim to have some great read on another player and make a great laydown, now I am in the club I guess.
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