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    Stu Ungar Mr.McJ's Avatar
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    Default What do you think of this one?

    The villain in question was really aggressive and seemed to be a pretty solid player. I had seen him take a lot of pots away by playing position aggressively and had reason to believe he was bluffing in several of those hands.



    PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

    MP1 ($31.50)
    MP2 ($21.80)
    MP3 ($24.75)
    CO ($24.75)
    Button ($4.35)
    SB ($25.05)
    Hero ($29.05)
    UTG ($27.85)
    UTG+1 ($9)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks.

    Flop: ($1.25) , , (5 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.75, Button folds, SB folds.



    I thought my 9s might be good at this point and figured I'd put out a probe bet to see where everyone was. I wasn't too concerned about my position at this point because a lot of the table was limping in with marginal hands and folding once there was any action on the flop.



    Turn: ($2.75) (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.5, MP1 raises to $3.5, Hero raises to $7, MP1 calls $3.50.



    Since the villain didn't raise me on the flop, I didn't think he had the A and so I bet out again. Once he raised me here, my first instinct was to fold. But following what I have learned in HOH, I thought about it for a bit. This is exactly how this guy had played the previous hands I was talking about at the top of my post. I put him on a weak pair or a draw and decided to raise him. In hindsight, I probably should have raised more (probably all in.)



    River: ($16.75) (2 players)
    Hero bets $10, MP1 calls $10.



    Since the flush didn't get there, I thought I could push him off his hand with a big bet. He thought about it for awhile and then called.



    Final Pot: $36.75

    Results in white below:
    Hero has 4c 9c (two pair, aces and nines).
    MP1 has 2s 9s (two pair, aces and nines).
    Outcome: MP1 wins $18.37. Hero wins $18.37.






    After playing some more hands at this table, I realise that this was the wrong opponent to be making this move against. At the time I was playing the hand, I hadn't really seen him showdown a lot of hands. I'd seen him call a lot and then raise on the turn/river to take down the pot uncontested. All that being said, I'm pretty pleased with my reads throughout the hand and, ironically, against a better opponent I probably would have won the hand.

    What do you guys think?

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    Anybody?

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    well played, he's crazy to call that, too bad the kicker didnt play.

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    You really donked it up... I quit reading after you reraised the turn. In fact, you should have given it up after the flop bet, and check/folded from there. You state he is a solid player, so why make such a fish move when you know you are going to get eaten up?

    This is $25NL. FPS will kill you. You bet for value, You call for value, You fold for value. You do not make fancy plays to look good.
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

    Luck is a Residue of Design.

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    What does HOH have to do with NL ring games?
    Lots of good rakeback options at http://www.rakeguard.com/?raf=KRE8R

    KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    You really donked it up... I quit reading after you reraised the turn. In fact, you should have given it up after the flop bet, and check/folded from there. You state he is a solid player, so why make such a fish move when you know you are going to get eaten up?

    This is $25NL. FPS will kill you. You bet for value, You call for value, You fold for value. You do not make fancy plays to look good.
    FPS?

    I realise that I was wrong about the most important read in the whole hand, that being that I could get him to fold his marginal hand, however I'm pleased with every other read I made. He had exactly what I thought he did, weak pair and the flush draw, and he was trying to make a move on me on the turn.

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    you took your shot, however misguided it was, on the turn; check/fold the river

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRE8R
    What does HOH have to do with NL ring games?
    It's helping me to properly analyze hands and, more importantly, think before I act. I already had some of the knowledge that HOH provides, pot odds and such, but HOH is really showing me how to apply it properly.

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    So what was the bigger mistake in this hand, the fact that I made the move or the fact that I made it against an opponent that I did not have a correct read on? Because if I put myself in his shoes, theres no way I'm calling the re-raise on the turn or the $10 bet on the river and I think against most opponents, this would have worked.

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    Since you were the aggressor most of the time he really should of folded. Very suprised in his call especially due to the fact his kicker was so weak. I would have put one of the two of you on the Ace. But you say you had a read on him that he was playing kind of a loose style so I guess your re-raise made sense. In hindsight I think it was a great play on your part and a poor ass play on his. Lucky fool =)

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