2 pair off the flop, board pairs

[Cricket_Fire]

PokerStars Game #4206508433: Hold'em No Limit (100/200) - 2006/03/07 - 12:19:11 (ET)
Table 'Britta' (Play Money) Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: cuticle (42200 in chips)
Seat 3: TRIPLEJDAD (7600 in chips)
Seat 4: WILDCHILD999 (32400 in chips)
Seat 5: richgirl3 (52600 in chips)
Seat 6: stevel1017 (41900 in chips)
Seat 7: Henricoson (44100 in chips)
Seat 8: Cricket_Fire (86922 in chips)
Seat 9: turn"em up1 (25240 in chips)
Cricket_Fire said, "vnh"
Henricoson: posts small blind 100
Cricket_Fire: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cricket_Fire [9d Jc]
stevel1017 said, "ty"
turn"em up1: folds
cuticle: calls 200
TRIPLEJDAD: calls 200
WILDCHILD999: calls 200
Cricket_Fire said, "great flop too lol"
richgirl3: calls 200
stevel1017: folds
stevel1017 said, "yep i liked it lol"
Cricket_Fire said, ""
Henricoson: calls 100
Cricket_Fire: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kc Kd Jh]
Henricoson: checks
Cricket_Fire: checks
cuticle: checks
TRIPLEJDAD: checks
WILDCHILD999: checks
richgirl3: checks
*** TURN *** [Kc Kd Jh] [6s]
Henricoson: bets 1200
Cricket_Fire: folds
cuticle: folds
TRIPLEJDAD: folds
WILDCHILD999: folds
richgirl3: folds
Henricoson collected 1200 from pot
Henricoson: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1200 | Rake 0
Board [Kc Kd Jh 6s]
Seat 1: cuticle folded on the Turn
Seat 3: TRIPLEJDAD folded on the Turn
Seat 4: WILDCHILD999 folded on the Turn
Seat 5: richgirl3 folded on the Turn
Seat 6: stevel1017 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Henricoson (small blind) collected (1200)
Seat 8: Cricket_Fire (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 9: turn"em up1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)



What would you do in my shoes? Did my Jacks and Kings stand up? Was afraid someone slowplayed a K

[ypsieast]

You gotta fire off a bet on the flop to see where you are at. You can lay it down to a reraise, or slow down on the turn if cold called. You have the big stack and they probably won't come back at you without the King. Pot sized bet on the turn.

And use the hand converter.

[Cricket_Fire]

Thanks!

I didn't use the hand converter just because it was a ply money game, and last time I tried to use it, it didn't add any of the bets in.

Thanks for the tips :good:

[ypsieast]

I can verify that I have used the hand converter for HHs for PStars play money hands. (hint: make sure you select ITH forums in the 1st drop down menu)

[Antneye]

Pot sized bet is too much to recommend post flop (referring to ypsieasts recommendation). You are probing here for information. theres a very good shot you are beaten. Why pay so much money to find out?

Harrington recommends between 1/3 & 1/2 pot for probe bets. I like to go up towards the 1/2 pot so as to mix them in with my continuation bets which start at 1/2 pot.

Probe, and fold to any resistance. A call of your probe is always tricky. I probably check/fold the turn to a caller.

[ypsieast]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, Antneye, on the size of the flop bet. I don't play ring games, so I defer to your judgement (although HoH is geared toward tourney play). Point is, you definitely need to bet out here.

[Antneye]

I read this as if it was a tourney......either way i agree you should lead out

[Antneye]

Looking at it again I have to second guess myself. I don't love betting into 5 players here. I may just check/fold this, although some may say thats passive. It's a tough spot to be in.

[Cricket_Fire]

Thanks guys! I'm not too concerned w/ bet size right now, just wanna get the basics down. Small-mid raise, in the game I got that hand in, would be between 600-1000 (depending on hand, who's in, etc).

[Antneye]

Cricket,

Do not overlook the importance of bet size. The bet size is what differentiates your opponents making a mistake or doing the right thing by calling. It's all about the pot odds you are getting or offering.

You can't just ask "should I play" it must be decided in the context of how much relative tot he pot, your position, and many other factors.

Try reading some hand histories that are posted on here and pay special attention to these details.