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Old 01-27-2006, 12:33 PM
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Old 01-27-2006, 12:41 PM
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It is tacit collusion, which is exploitation... And the largest pot I've ever lost is probably $3. In 4 weeks Ive gone from $50 to $80 playing micro limits (01.-02c), its not worth it for me at the moment. But I do respect your point about support, I didnt know about that. I think for many people it is worth it so Ill admit defeat.. its a good price for the majority of players.

Does anybody know of any cheap alternatives though?

If you plan on becoming a regular player and moving up in limits (even as low as 0.1/0.2) PT at $55 is a 100% solid investment. Just wait till your 3-4 tabling 0.1/0.2 LHE and making 10BB/100 with your information. May not seem like much, but at $4 an hour return you'll be moving up in no time and youll know exactly where your strengths and weeknessess are plus you will have built a database on other players as well.
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its not tacit collusion i doubt the firms even talk to each other
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Old 01-28-2006, 05:57 AM
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That's exactly what tacit collusion is.
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you know what the funniest fucking part of all this is? pokeroffice costs 79, not 55

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Old 01-28-2006, 03:50 PM
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Is it tacic collusion when both the cars you want to buy are within 50% of the same price of each other?
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Just pony up and buy PT.
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Mik1w, I'm going to go out on a limb here because I think I've got read on you.lol I bet it is safe to say that you are not a self-employed business owner, nor do you work for someone else where you are allowed to see the actual costs associated with owning and operating a business. Why do I bet that? You said.....

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Compare Poker Tracker to other software... compare the price to other software. Compare it to a computer game, where you have a team of people working for years, and a computer game can cost half of the price of this software. So if you look at production costs ALONE, it doesnt justify the price.
That has to be the silliest business related comment I've heard in years. Those comments are so easily discredited that their funny. The quick answer is this. A software company designing a computer game will in fact have teams of people spending a year or more making a new game. True. And they will sell it for less than $55 (I guess, I'm not a gamer). But, while unlikely, let's say they sell it as cheap as half the price of PT. There is one MAJOR difference here....the software company knows they are going to sell hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of copies of that one game. They are making big bucks because of volume and that volume allows them to sell their product cheaper. If they had that same team of people building that same game and knew they'd only sell a few thousand copies, the game would cost $500 or more, just to cover their costs. Production costs can be greatly hidden and dispersed when you sell in volume. This is simple business theory.

And yes I am self employed and my wife and I own several small businesses. If you don't like PT's price, don't buy it, but it is accepted and embraced in the online poker community as THE stat tracking software of choice. No need to bash Pat, a hard working business man producing a great product at a fair price.
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Such an incredible piece of software and all for only $55.

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Taken from the PT forums just tonight.
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I bought PT about a month ago, it has paid for itself. I play the lowest limit right now, 1c/2c. This software is nothing but wonders. So saying that because you play low limits it's not worth is total shit.
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I was waiitng for a good spot to print this or to speak about it anyway, I have pokertracker and while I didnt mind the money now that I have it Im not sure that it is worth it. Why you ask, Ok well for one thing you cant really acess it during a game when you need it without missing a lot of information that I can pick up with my eyes Ok, another thing is unless you are playing on a really small site you will have to keep records from now until doomesday before you have enough on an opponent to make it all worthwhile and on a big site you dont keep running into many of the same poeple all that often.
I am on a site now where in my opinion the players are BAD, and so I havent really been using it at all, I feel like it cant pick up on anything but trends and while it is good to know that a guy will fold his blind a lot and his showdown % of winners is high it cant tell me when he is on titl and THAT is when you make money off the guy right? It is alright and its something to add to your knowledge about players but like now I am playing a lot of NL, do you think for a minute I am going to trust that thing on a decision when a wrong one can cost me hundreds?

Ok, so now you know why I didnt want to post this anywhere cuz the pokertracker army will want to hunt me down now! lol
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