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Old 01-23-2006, 09:59 AM
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Default EV differences in Limit vs. No Limit

This is something I was thinking about recently and honsestly I don't feel as thought I've played enough of either to make an accurate assumption so what do you guys think about this?

Is it possible that strong hands can tend to be -EV for one game compared to the other or will the strong hands ALWAYS make $. I mean at any time you can look at the river rats section, or even in a ring game of NL and see a huge suck out or misread which costs someone their stack. Now depending on how large their stack was at the time would it be possible that that particular hand might never be a winner for that person? I mean in limit you have structured betting and really can't get stacked on a hand, so even if you catch 10 bad beats in a row with a particular hand eventualy your edge pays off. Whereas the same scenario in NL can cost you a huge loss compared to what you've made with that hand.

Does this make sense to anyone or am I off somewhere in my thinking?
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some of it depends on your post flop play and your opponents skill.

AA in deep stack poker can be costly if you you can't lay it down, but your opponents will only get all in when you are beaten.
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This is one example. The truth is, and I know many people here will disagree with me, in a no limit cash game with deep money (like 100x BB+) preflop play has much less to do with your EV then do things like position and post flop play. I would even go as far as saying preflop play is not that important WITHIN REASON. This is in part because of the huge implied odds one potentially has in NL, particularly against bad players with good preflop hands. (I'm NOT saying you are a bad player, just giving one example as beavis did where a poor player who cant laydown AA makes it very profitable to call them preflop with almost anything in a hope of taking all their money when you are ahead and losing very little when you are behind) My site has a short piece re:implied odds in NL

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some of it depends on your post flop play and your opponents skill.

AA in deep stack poker can be costly if you you can't lay it down, but your opponents will only get all in when you are beaten.
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