I know I posted a question about this a little while back and Trons did a great job of explaining counting the pot and converting it from SB to BB (thanks again Trons). But I have one more quick question and someone tell me if this makes sense and is accurate. I'm playing more limit now and want to know if I figured this out completely.

Assume there's 16 Small bets in the pot going into the turn:

At this point you should divide by 2 giving us 8 big bets correct?

Now if.. by the time the action gets to you there has been a bet followed by raises making it 3 bets to you..... if you decide to just call am I supposed to be taking the 8 big bets and dividing it by 3 to determine my odds? In other words I'd be getting a little over 2.5:1 in this scenario? (right or wrong answer?).

I understand the counting bets methid when it's only one bet for me to call I'm just not sure if I'm figuring multiple bets out correctly. Is there any other formula I should be using when there's either mulitple bets or if I call (as another example 2 bets and it gets capped by the time the action closes). If that makes any sense

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You don't really newed to think of the bet to you in bets per se.... Its just Total pot / The bet to you. In this case, 8/3 or 2.6-1.

The Bets to come question refers to implied odds. Don't worry about that yet until you have a good grasp on figuring explicit odds (what you asked about).

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Thanks for the help, so I was correct on my figuring in the first example.. when I figured it was just over 2.5:1. So basically anything that gets raised or capped after I decide to call a bet is geared more towards implied odds?

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If you are on a draw though, you need to factor the cost of additional raises into the pot odds.

In your example, the likely hood of the betting getting capped makes your pot odds less than 2.5:1.

Actuallly, it was 8bb going into the turn, a bet...a raise, a reraise (making it 3 bets to you....giving you...right then 14:3 or a little over 4.6:1 Those bets and raises are concidered part of the pot...aren't they?

As far as concidering raises to come (in the example above, it'll probably be capped), but wouldn't that fall under implied odds...the same as it would be implied odds to assume that they are just going to call...the implied odds would read something along the lines of 23:4 or almost 6:1 (assuming the orginal bettor caps and everybody else calls).

The above posted by me is more of a question the a definitive statement because this is the way I've always looked at it and I'm not sure I'm correct in my calculations of implicit pot odds.

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Don't go confusing me Trons!! I though I had it... 8 big bets in the pot and 3 bets to us means we have to call 3BB in order to win 8. 8/3= 2.6

I was under the impression that the bets we put into the pot won't come into play until the river

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I'm not trying to confuse anybody. I was under the impression that any bet made prior to your acting is concidered part of the pot. I've always taken those bets into concideration when calculating pot odds...I'm not sure this is the correct way to do it.

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You are right tronsybaby

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YES! my bad... whoa... its 14:3... not 8:3....

Anything that is in the pot, or has been bet already is considered in the pot..... so yeah, its 14:3.....

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