Limit players quick stats review please

Pok 7's · #1 (**permalink**) 12-12-2005, 08:11 AM

Okay I started playing some limit ring games for a while I understand this is a very small sample size but I'm guessing alot of you guys worked your way up in limits. So I was wondering what are your thoughts for these stats so far .05/.10 on Stars. I know my Won$ SD needs to be higher I'm using Marms rules for rating and I'm a SLPA . Should I tighten up more for this level and just raise PF premium hands only or am I better off seeing a decent amount of cheap flops? It seems like at this level any limpers PF are calling any raise anyway and theres alot of check calling post flop. Also what should be a sustainable BB/100 for this level? I haven't read a ton of books on Hold Em yet but I have SSH and Getting Started in Hold Em on order.

Pok 7's · #2 (**permalink**) 12-12-2005, 08:13 AM

BTW, sorry I didn't realize it was gonna take up that much room.

Beavis68 · #3 (**permalink**) 12-12-2005, 08:33 AM

first, I don't like targeting stats if your BB/100 is good.

your is great, although you don't have a lot of hands and it could change.

VPIP is in the good range, I play a little looser, but 21%-24% is good on these tables.

You PFR is too low, it is about half of what I think it should be.

Are you raising ATs, KQs and KJs?

Pok 7's · #4 (**permalink**) 12-12-2005, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Beavis68

Are you raising ATs, KQs and KJs?

No although I've only been dealt each one less that 5 times, I have called raises with those hands but haven't raised/reraised with them. Generally I'm playing suited aces (just for the flush potential). Pocket pairs, suited connectors 6,7 or higher and the suited kings you mentioned. My raising hands are usually AK, AKs, and QQ or better unless I'm trying a steal. Occasionally I'll play a non suited connector or a unsuited one gapper like a J,K if I decide to loosen up a little or mix it up.

Steve-O · #5 (**permalink**) 12-12-2005, 08:53 AM

Your VPIP is a little high, but many would argue that.

Your VPIP from the SB is WAY too high.

Your PFR is way too low

You probably have been limping and hitting a lot of lucky flops is my guess. Try cutting out the lower end of the hands you see as playable, tightening up your SB play, and that in itself will probably increase your PFR to around 5ish

Pok 7's · #6 (**permalink**) 12-12-2005, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve-O

Your VPIP from the SB is WAY too high.

So even at this level just completing my blind if there's no raises PF isn't a good idea? I'm not talking about with a 7,2o but I do have a pretty large range of hands to complete my blind with. Still cut it down?

Steve-O · #7 (**permalink**) 12-12-2005, 09:23 AM

how many people are limping?

Beavis68 · #8 (**permalink**) 12-12-2005, 09:26 AM

Seriously it is not uncommon to have every player see a flop on these tables.

Especially when you are in the SB with QQ.

A lot of drawing hands gain power. It is almost a text book SSH game - at least it was when Marm and I did our stint. I think Marms VPIP was about 22%, I was almost to 25%.

I would play crap like K6s from the CO or button.

Pok 7's · #9 (**permalink**) 12-12-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve-O

how many people are limping?

On average at least half the table or better, it usually pretty rare to see PF raise unless it's a maniac or someone has a hand, although sometimes "a hand" is any 2 big cards or 44.

Steve-O · #10 (**permalink**) 12-12-2005, 09:41 AM

with 5 or 6 people I would still be fairly cautious from the SB.

From the SB I would play suited Kings, Q8+ suited, J7+suited, suited connectors with 2 gaps like 7T, 58, 69, along with the regular mix of pairs, AXsuited type hands