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Old 11-05-2005, 03:46 PM
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Angry Read Harrington on Holdem and got worse

I had always seemed to do decent in MTT and STT overall i was making money. i read Harrington on Holdem 1 about 2 weeks ago and since then ive been absolutely terrible, i cant money not even in STT. I guess this is really a rant at myself to blow off steam. Im starting HH2 maybe that will help a little (not neccesary what it says because i know it for late game) but maybe will help me focus harder on my play
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Old 11-05-2005, 03:50 PM
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I don't like HoH for SnGs. I think you need to play much tighter in most SnGs.
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i read it too. but havnt applied it to sng b/c i dont need to improve. (well i could win 100% instead of 99% but if it aint broken dont fix it). but for MTT it looks good. havnt tried it yet b/c i only play MTT when i get enough points for free buy in, but i may apply his strategy today for UB's 28k guarantee if i decide to play. only if the overley is 5-6k ill play it.

but dont just screw your previous strategy and just do harringtons, kind of ease into it i would imagine.
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see thats thing - i dont feel like im making any drastic changes seems what happens is i play tight for awhile then pick up KK or something then i have a 2 suited flop have to bet big and pick up a few blinds and then eventaully i just get whittled down
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Hmm..I just rodered HoH vol 1+2...more for tourney advise than anything else
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I am surprised by this. I have been able to drastically improve my results by utilizing the concepts laid out in HOH. I predominantly play SNG's and find it applicable.

I understand that it is probably MORE applicable in MTT's where things have a chance to play out over a longer period of time, but I feel it works just as well in SNG's.

The only modifications I make for SNG's is that I put less importance on some of the drawing hands to a monster......suited connectors etc. The reason for this is that I try to avoid hands that have me limping and check/folding because of the premium on chips in SNG's. With more time and larger stacks (Deep stack tourneys) these hands rise in importance IMO.

I suggest you stick it out. Re-read and make sure you are not mis-applying some of the concepts. I have re-read each volume at least 4 times, and pick up something that I had overlooked each time. This is probably because my perpsective has changed over time as my game has improved.

I think the examples in this book are first rate and help you to see what the right play is, as well as seeing the consequences of those mistakes.

I can't wait for the 3rd volume to come out.
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i read it too. but havnt applied it to sng b/c i dont need to improve. (well i could win 100% instead of 99% but if it aint broken dont fix it). but for MTT it looks good. havnt tried it yet b/c i only play MTT when i get enough points for free buy in, but i may apply his strategy today for UB's 28k guarantee if i decide to play. only if the overley is 5-6k ill play it.

but dont just screw your previous strategy and just do harringtons, kind of ease into it i would imagine.
kinda a pompuos statement there, no room for improvement huh?

And its ONLY aimed at MTT's. So trying to apply it elsewhere, it won't be effective.
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then why does he give examples from STT ?
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surf.....its meant for both, some concepts from vol I dont work as great for SNG's since they apply to high m scenarios.

Have you read vol ii? SNG's quickly deteriorate to low M scenarios which vol II covers in depth.


Stick with it.
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im just started volume 2 and i might be breaking out of my slump, came in 4th (no money) 2nd and 3rd in last 3 SnGs but most importantly i felt like i played very well in both my monies. I can see that my low M play needs alot of help so this should be a good read for me.
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