I am under the gun in a 9 handed 1-2 no limit game (100bb buy in) with about 110bb in front of me.

I am holding Qc Kc.
i called the $4 straddle.
guy in mid position raises to $10.
Dealer calles $10.
I raise to $37 total, both players call.

flop comes 4s Jh Ks. I go all in for $175.
mid position folds
dealer calls.

turn comes 8h, river comes Ac.

dealer shows As 2s.


Did I play this wrong? should I have checked top pair?

what hands did you put your opposition on when they called your $37 raise?
Why go all in? why not value bet and find out where you are?
The problem with all in with top pair is you only get called by guys who have a good chance to beat you.
I think the dealer had breakeven odds to call, you'll hit your flush 36% of the time plus all the long shots like the backdoor strait, 2 running dueces or as happened pairing an over card. How big a stack did the dealer have?

Originally Posted by Jarr3tt88

Yea I wouldn't have shoved either, considering you had two other players to act after you and they BOTH called a raise PF.

Dealer had an equal stack to me. I was pretty positive he had a missed ace, and wanted to make sure no flush draws continued (obviously failed). He obviously could have had AK, but he possibly would have re raised the 10 dollar raise or the 37 dollar raise. Even so what bet am I folding to that he makes w/ AK? I guess I am wondering if I could have won this hand. What size bet do you make in to a pot that size? w/ the amount I had left and the amount already in the pot anything less than 80 seems too small, and that doesn't leave me with much of anything to get him off of a draw

Also, mid position had been calling 15 - 20 dollar (with mid position or even early position) with Q8 off, J7 off, 64s and etc on a consisten basis. He had rebought for 100bb about 4 times in the past 2 hours.

Originally Posted by BroJaySimpson

Dealer had an equal stack to me. I was pretty positive he had a missed ace, and wanted to make sure no flush draws continued (obviously failed). He obviously could have had AK, but he possibly would have re raised the 10 dollar raise or the 37 dollar raise. Even so what bet am I folding to that he makes w/ AK? I guess I am wondering if I could have won this hand. What size bet do you make in to a pot that size? w/ the amount I had left and the amount already in the pot anything less than 80 seems too small, and that doesn't leave me with much of anything to get him off of a draw

Also, mid position had been calling 15 - 20 dollar (with mid position or even early position) with Q8 off, J7 off, 64s and etc on a consisten basis. He had rebought for 100bb about 4 times in the past 2 hours.

You are trying to win, not with the best hand but by getting your opponent to fold. When you make a move like that you only get called with hands that can beat you.

It’s tough to get someone off a flush draw; you make a flush draw 1 out of 3 times.So if there is anything in the pot before you bet the flop the flush draw is getting the correct odds to call.

Might work in a tourney where you can’t rebuy but in a ring game why not gamble?

Q K suited is definately a very strong hand and one that I think should be brought in with a raise from any position. You want to try and thin the field with these hands to reduce the number of players that might potentially draw out on you with a lucky hand. I don't really know what kind of players you were up against, but the dealer sounds like a calling station. Calling a raise with A 2 suited is a bold move, but calling a bet of $175 post flop with nothing is a losers play.

After the flop he is already a 12 to 1 underdog to win from there. However unless you knew this player inside out I would have question what it was he was calling a raise with, could he be holding K J. From first position you had no way of knowing, which is why I think it would have been wiser to check the table from first position to find out how others reacted to the flop. When middle position raised pre flop he could have been holding pocket 4's and completed a set, again you had no way of knowing. Its best to never throw your money at the pot until your fully confident you have the best hand. You threw your money at the pot blind. Best to always get as much info as you can. I hope this has been able to help a bit..

Originally Posted by jaymon88

Q K suited is definately a very strong hand and one that I think should be brought in with a raise from any position. You want to try and thin the field with these hands to reduce the number of players that might potentially draw out on you with a lucky hand. I don't really know what kind of players you were up against, but the dealer sounds like a calling station. Calling a raise with A 2 suited is a bold move, but calling a bet of $175 post flop with nothing is a losers play.

After the flop he is already a 12 to 1 underdog to win from there. However unless you knew this player inside out I would have question what it was he was calling a raise with, could he be holding K J. From first position you had no way of knowing, which is why I think it would have been wiser to check the table from first position to find out how others reacted to the flop. When middle position raised pre flop he could have been holding pocket 4's and completed a set, again you had no way of knowing. Its best to never throw your money at the pot until your fully confident you have the best hand. You threw your money at the pot blind. Best to always get as much info as you can. I hope this has been able to help a bit..

I think retrospect I Should have made a small ($20?) continuation bet to see if anyone folds and to see if someone reraises. I still see myself pushing on the turn to get someone off of draw....

I built the pot too big to get anyone off of a draw preflop, next time I will smooth call...

Originally Posted by jaymon88

Calling a raise with A 2 suited is a bold move, but calling a bet of $175 post flop with nothing is a losers play.

After the flop he is already a 12 to 1 underdog to win from there.

I need a little help woth your odds calculation.
I agree that calling a raise with A2s is question able but once the flop comes with 2 spades I see it as being a 2:1 underdog

Using Poker news Odds Calculator and inputing the hands and the flop, it shows the A2s hand as winning 45% of the time. Almost a coin flip. Certainly worth a call if there is any money in the pot.