Hi All,
I am working on this side project that I call pokerengineer.com. Its is similar to a poker odd calculator but is more powerful and interesting. My plan is to follow google's strategy and to create a simple page that people can easily navigate.
Click on "Help" button on the page to get an idea about how to use the tool.
Please have a look at it and let me know of your comments. If there are any features that you would like me to add to it, let me know.
Thanks.
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04-25-2011 #1Fish Food
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pokerengineer.com
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04-25-2011 #2
there's plenty of odds calculators out there that work a lot better than this and has more features and a better GUI
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04-26-2011 #3Fish Food
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Hi Av,
Thanks for looking into the simulator and for your feedback.
I don't know of any real time odd calculator that can update your percentage win as you provide more information when the game progresses. For example try the following.
1. Play against 9 players
2. Give yourself AK of clubs.
3. Evaluate your percentage win. It is 20%.
4. Now, based on the preflop betting that you observe, make some of the players fold their hands (you do this by unchecking "in hand" check box). At the same time, based on your intuition, give some cards to your opponents that are still in the hand. Lets say 5 players fold, a very conservative player raises (Lets give him pocket Kings), some loose players (2 of them) calls (lets give them 10,J spades, and pocket fives to the other), you call, and then a totally new player calls (you don't know what he has).
5. Reevaluate your hand based on this information. It is 24% now.
6. Add cards to the flop as you see them.Lets say the flop comes J,8 clubs and 7 of diamonds.
7. Reevaluate your hand, Now, the percentage win is 44%.
8. Lets say at this point player with KK bets and the other player with 10,J and unknown cards fold while 5,5 calls and you call as well (you call based on the amount raised and your percentage win value).
9. Reevaluate your hand, now percentage win is 47%.
10. Deal the turn. Lets say its 10 spades. Now the percentage win is 35%.
11. K,K bets, 5,5 folds, you call.
12. River is 6 of clubs, now your winning percentage is 100%.
If there is another simulator that gives you your percentage win at every step based on the available information that you provide to it, please let me know. I would like to take a look at them
Thanks.
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04-26-2011 #4
FTR has one, CardPlayer has one... the list goes on... there's no market for odds calculators since they're available everywhere for free...
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04-26-2011 #5
Pokerstove
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04-26-2011 #6Fish Food
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Thanks Av for your comment.
You are right, odd calculators at FTR and CardPlayer do similar things but they are not as flexible and powerful as pokerengineer for example,
1. In both FTR and Cardplayer, you have to provide information about the cards of other players i.e. in FTR if you just deal yourself KK, it does not provide you with any information about your winning odds. In CardPlayer, if you deal yourself KK and play against 9 players with unknown cards, it says that your winning percentage is 100% which is quite misleading. In pokerengineer, if you deal yourself KK and play against 9 players with unknown cards, your winning percentage comes out to be 26%.
2. Both FTR and CardPlayer do let users provide partial information e.g. you cannot just select just one card for a certain player. This feature is quite useful when you know that a certain player always plays this way whenever he has an Ace.
3. Both FTR and CardPlayer do allow the user to make other players fold their hands. This significantly affects the winning odds. e.g if you are playing KK against 9 other players with unknown cards, your winning percentage is 26% but lets say 5 players fold preflop, now your winning percentage is 50%. This information is quite useful in improving your chance of winnings and gives you an estimate of how much you should bet to make 5-6 people fold.
Already, pokerengineer is more powerful than the current available poker odd calculators. Second, the plan here is not to make people pay for this service. It will always be free. The idea is to provide the starters with a tool that can enable them to understand the odds of their hands as the game progresses and more information is revealed. To achieve this goal, I would definitely need suggestions and comments from people like yourself.
Thanks
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04-26-2011 #7Fish Food
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Thank you KnightofNarg for your comment but pokerstove is not online you have to download it which makes it less attractive. It is not opensource as well. I am planning to make this tool opensource if it attracts some decent collaborators.
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04-26-2011 #8
I prefer downloading programs. Also, Pokerstove allows me to apply a range of hands to an opponent, rather than a single hand.
If you wanted to do something truely awesome, write a program that combines the usefulness of Pokerstove and Flopzilla.
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04-26-2011 #9Fish Food
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Thanks for your suggestion Knight.
I agree, applying a range of hands is a very interesting feature and I am planning to add it to this online tool. One of the advantages of having an online tool is that you can also run it on mobile devices so I am still more inclined towards softwares that are online. I will explore Pokerstove and Flopzilla in more details and will see if there are any other features that I can add to this tool. If you have any other suggestions, I will appreciate your comments.
BTW, I see that this thread shows "MOVED" on the main page. Do you know where has it been moved to.
Thanks.
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04-26-2011 #10Fish Food
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ok.. its been moved to General Discussion.. Thanks to whoever moved it there.
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