at which stakes these calls stops happening?

kavelot · #1 (**permalink**) 06-12-2008, 11:21 PM

I was playing $3+$0.40 S&G now, blinds 75/150, 7 people left on table
me with 1350 chips on late position, with 2 limpers before
I went all-in with AQ and got called by KQ (one of the limpers)

of course that's a stupid call (what was he putting me on? KJ?), but of course a K flopped
that's fine, I like that because it allows me to profit in long run (20% ROI, against -28% from the guy who called)

but I'm curious
at which stakes shouldn't we expect do see those donks playing? I'd like to improve my game (even if I start losing), not only win because I'm playing donks
do you think $6+$0.50 is enough?

I tried it sometimes, but see players seeing the flop 45% right from the beggining (of course they have like -40% ROI), so I don't know how much stakes should be

Bagonirix · #2 (**permalink**) 06-12-2008, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kavelot

but I'm curious
at which stakes shouldn't we expect do see those donks playing? I'd like to improve my game (even if I start losing), not only win because I'm playing donks
do you think $6+$0.50 is enough?

lol no there's donks everywhere you go.

tightagressive · #3 (**permalink**) 06-13-2008, 01:02 AM

posts like this tilt me so hard

if you don't understand why this post is stupid on like 10 different levels, then you are probably a fish yourself

MJPerry · #4 (**permalink**) 06-13-2008, 05:41 AM

The funny thing is he obviously understood that donkey calls make him money and mentioned the difference in ROI, yet he still wants to move up to less donk-filled levels?

Also, lol @ thinking $6.50 is gonna be that much better than $3.30.

kavelot · #5 (**permalink**) 06-13-2008, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJPerry

The funny thing is he obviously understood that donkey calls make him money and mentioned the difference in ROI, yet he still wants to move up to less donk-filled levels?

Also, lol @ thinking $6.50 is gonna be that much better than $3.30.

I also said I don't wanna make money because I'm playing donks, I want to improve my game

MJPerry · #6 (**permalink**) 06-13-2008, 07:18 AM

*struggles to think of a better way to make money than playing donks*

WotaWaster · #7 (**permalink**) 06-13-2008, 07:43 AM

Come play NL$1000.

There will still be a couple donks I am afraid but I promise to try my best to take your money!

PJ of TheGame · #8 (**permalink**) 06-13-2008, 07:43 AM

It does make sense... he's saying if he wants to beat "tough" games, then he's not going to learn how to do it playing against these guys.

But the only way to do that is to move up and gradually the games will get a little better at each level. It's still those guys you're making money from at the highest levels though! It's just that you learn how to not really get involved with the other god players while taking shots at the idiot's stacks.

squeezyplayer · #9 (**permalink**) 06-13-2008, 09:41 AM

U CAN NEVER ESCAPE

PokerStars Game #18067656326: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/06/11 - 13:46:29 (ET)
Table 'Kajaani' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: nsd4eva ($380.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Jschlach ($74 in chips)
Seat 3: APokerPirate ($781.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Jamie217 ($480.20 in chips)
Seat 5: societymax ($483.40 in chips)
Seat 6: kriegskeks ($732 in chips)
APokerPirate: posts small blind $2
Jamie217: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to societymax [Kh Ks]
societymax: raises $12 to $16
kriegskeks: folds
nsd4eva: folds
Jschlach: folds
APokerPirate: raises $28 to $44
Jamie217: folds
societymax: raises $84 to $128
APokerPirate: calls $84
*** FLOP *** [5d 7h 3s]
APokerPirate: checks
societymax: bets $96
APokerPirate: calls $96
*** TURN *** [5d 7h 3s] [Ac]
APokerPirate: checks
societymax: bets $259.40 and is all-in
APokerPirate: calls $259.40
*** RIVER *** [5d 7h 3s Ac] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
APokerPirate: shows [3d 6d] (two pair, Fives and Threes)
societymax: shows [Kh Ks] (two pair, Kings and Fives)
societymax collected $967.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $970.80 | Rake $3
Board [5d 7h 3s Ac 5h]
Seat 1: nsd4eva folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Jschlach (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: APokerPirate (small blind) showed [3d 6d] and lost with two pair, Fives and Threes
Seat 4: Jamie217 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: societymax showed [Kh Ks] and won ($967.80) with two pair, Kings and Fives
Seat 6: kriegskeks folded before Flop (didn't bet)

kavelot · #10 (**permalink**) 06-13-2008, 11:41 AM

lol
can't believe APokerPirate earn the money he puts on poker, to treat it this way
he can only be stealing it