at which stakes these calls stops happening? - Page 2

tightagressive · #11 (**permalink**) 06-13-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by squeezyplayer

U CAN NEVER ESCAPE

never used this internet lingo term before, but it seems so fitting here, QFT

PokerStars Game #15277064936: Tournament #76753813, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (7500/15000) - 2008/02/14 - 05:07:39 (ET)
Table '76753813 98' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Stormen_Per (1374452 in chips)
Seat 2: slimshaggy (262400 in chips)
Seat 4: G6Dragon (237781 in chips)
Seat 6: Body Man D (164678 in chips)
Seat 7: QUEEN KAZU (360306 in chips)
Seat 8: tEh_R3aLde4L (257202 in chips)
Seat 9: VietR1 (151181 in chips)
Stormen_Per: posts the ante 750
slimshaggy: posts the ante 750
G6Dragon: posts the ante 750
Body Man D: posts the ante 750
QUEEN KAZU: posts the ante 750
tEh_R3aLde4L: posts the ante 750
VietR1: posts the ante 750
slimshaggy: posts small blind 7500
G6Dragon: posts big blind 15000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tEh_R3aLde4L [8s 8h]
Body Man D: folds
QUEEN KAZU: folds
tEh_R3aLde4L: raises 23900 to 38900
VietR1: folds
Stormen_Per: folds
slimshaggy: raises 222750 to 261650 and is all-in
G6Dragon: folds
tEh_R3aLde4L: calls 217552 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [6d 5h 3c]
tEh_R3aLde4L said, "hold?" (lol)
*** TURN *** [6d 5h 3c] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [6d 5h 3c 2h] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
slimshaggy: shows [Kd 4s] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
tEh_R3aLde4L: shows [8s 8h] (a pair of Eights)
tEh_R3aLde4L said, "lol"
slimshaggy collected 533154 from pot
Body Man D said, "sick, ul"
Body Man D said, "gg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 533154 | Rake 0
Board [6d 5h 3c 2h Kh]
Seat 1: Stormen_Per (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: slimshaggy (small blind) showed [Kd 4s] and won (533154) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 4: G6Dragon (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Body Man D folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: QUEEN KAZU folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tEh_R3aLde4L showed [8s 8h] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: VietR1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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tightagressive · #12 (**permalink**) 06-13-2008, 12:32 PM

for about 20k in equity ^^

blindman · #13 (**permalink**) 06-14-2008, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tightagressive

slimshaggy: shows [Kd 4s] (a straight, Deuce to Six)

Not quite the same as calling all-in with crap. At that level, everybody is stealing left right and centre. I guess he put you on a steal and tried to re-steal. I'm not saying it was smart, but it wasn't as dumb at the last example.

OrionPro · #14 (**permalink**) 06-14-2008, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kavelot

I was playing $3+$0.40 S&G now, blinds 75/150, 7 people left on table
me with 1350 chips on late position, with 2 limpers before
I went all-in with AQ and got called by KQ (one of the limpers)

of course that's a stupid call (what was he putting me on? KJ?), but of course a K flopped
that's fine, I like that because it allows me to profit in long run (20% ROI, against -28% from the guy who called)

but I'm curious
at which stakes shouldn't we expect do see those donks playing? I'd like to improve my game (even if I start losing), not only win because I'm playing donks
do you think $6+$0.50 is enough?

I dont think so. If you dont like multiway action for some reason, the Stars $16s can be rather tight sometimes. $100 and above you should rarely encounter multiple limpers.

iflopsets · #15 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 09:40 AM

donks are everywhere, forever.

George · #16 (**permalink**) 06-25-2008, 08:47 AM

$6.50, $3.30, They are all the same. Go play a $55 sit and go and you will see the exact same sick play. It's online poker. Go play a $220 sit and go and you'll see more folds. Online poker is a sick, sick game.. But you will find donkeys at every level. Just adjust your play to match and you'll make money.

MrInker · #17 (**permalink**) 06-25-2008, 09:46 PM

Somethign that hasn't been addressed here is that going all-in was a mistake in this situation. Why risk it all when you don't have to? Don't you have any confidence in your post flop game? You could have easily raised to say 600-625 and stole the blinds and limpers. Even if the guy with KQ called you could have seen the flop, missed the flop, and folded when HE went all in. You probably could have done this for less then I said.

I think way too many people think ALL IN is the power move to make in this game, but they couldn't be more wrong. You didn't even have a pair, so why do it? Isolate a player, see a flop, then go from there. Work on a strong post flop game instead of gambling so much. You risked 1350 in chips and your tourny life to win 525 chips?? You didn't have the value here. I think the fact that you lost the hand and are calling the other guy a donk is funny.

MJPerry · #18 (**permalink**) 06-26-2008, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MrInker

Somethign that hasn't been addressed here is that going all-in was a mistake in this situation. Why risk it all when you don't have to? Don't you have any confidence in your post flop game? You could have easily raised to say 600-625 and stole the blinds and limpers. Even if the guy with KQ called you could have seen the flop, missed the flop, and folded when HE went all in. You probably could have done this for less then I said.

I think way too many people think ALL IN is the power move to make in this game, but they couldn't be more wrong. You didn't even have a pair, so why do it? Isolate a player, see a flop, then go from there. Work on a strong post flop game instead of gambling so much. You risked 1350 in chips and your tourny life to win 525 chips?? You didn't have the value here. I think the fact that you lost the hand and are calling the other guy a donk is funny.

If this isn't a level then you should never ever play tournaments.

jharding666 · #19 (**permalink**) 06-26-2008, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MrInker

Somethign that hasn't been addressed here is that going all-in was a mistake in this situation. Why risk it all when you don't have to? Don't you have any confidence in your post flop game? You could have easily raised to say 600-625 and stole the blinds and limpers. Even if the guy with KQ called you could have seen the flop, missed the flop, and folded when HE went all in. You probably could have done this for less then I said.

I think way too many people think ALL IN is the power move to make in this game, but they couldn't be more wrong. You didn't even have a pair, so why do it? Isolate a player, see a flop, then go from there. Work on a strong post flop game instead of gambling so much. You risked 1350 in chips and your tourny life to win 525 chips?? You didn't have the value here. I think the fact that you lost the hand and are calling the other guy a donk is funny.

You joined here in 2005 which suggests you've been playing for at least 3 years. Compare that information with your post and it does not compute!

jharding666 · #20 (**permalink**) 06-26-2008, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tightagressive

never used this internet lingo term before, but it seems so fitting here, QFT

PokerStars Game #15277064936: Tournament #76753813, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (7500/15000) - 2008/02/14 - 05:07:39 (ET)
Table '76753813 98' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Stormen_Per (1374452 in chips)
Seat 2: slimshaggy (262400 in chips)
Seat 4: G6Dragon (237781 in chips)
Seat 6: Body Man D (164678 in chips)
Seat 7: QUEEN KAZU (360306 in chips)
Seat 8: tEh_R3aLde4L (257202 in chips)
Seat 9: VietR1 (151181 in chips)
Stormen_Per: posts the ante 750
slimshaggy: posts the ante 750
G6Dragon: posts the ante 750
Body Man D: posts the ante 750
QUEEN KAZU: posts the ante 750
tEh_R3aLde4L: posts the ante 750
VietR1: posts the ante 750
slimshaggy: posts small blind 7500
G6Dragon: posts big blind 15000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tEh_R3aLde4L [8s 8h]
Body Man D: folds
QUEEN KAZU: folds
tEh_R3aLde4L: raises 23900 to 38900
VietR1: folds
Stormen_Per: folds
slimshaggy: raises 222750 to 261650 and is all-in
G6Dragon: folds
tEh_R3aLde4L: calls 217552 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [6d 5h 3c]
tEh_R3aLde4L said, "hold?" (lol)
*** TURN *** [6d 5h 3c] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [6d 5h 3c 2h] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
slimshaggy: shows [Kd 4s] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
tEh_R3aLde4L: shows [8s 8h] (a pair of Eights)
tEh_R3aLde4L said, "lol"
slimshaggy collected 533154 from pot
Body Man D said, "sick, ul"
Body Man D said, "gg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 533154 | Rake 0
Board [6d 5h 3c 2h Kh]
Seat 1: Stormen_Per (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: slimshaggy (small blind) showed [Kd 4s] and won (533154) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 4: G6Dragon (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Body Man D folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: QUEEN KAZU folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tEh_R3aLde4L showed [8s 8h] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: VietR1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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How about you show yourself 3bet shoving 93 and beating AK? Sorry bud but this hand is totally different.