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05-10-2008, 09:53 AM
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Gavin Griffin is an idiot
I searched for teampokerstars players, and that "pro" came up on the list so I clicked to watch his HU match against I don't know who.
200+20$ stakes
so he has a chip EDIT (GAVIN HAS A CHIP LEAD SQUEEZY) lead 1900 to 1100 playing good and in control.
blinds are 50-100 he's on the button. He goes all in just like that... Opponent calls. Gavin has KJ offsuit opponent AJ. Opponent wins the hand. 3 hands later.
SQUEEZY : Gavin had 1900.
Great move Gavin.
Last edited by mister.x; 05-10-2008 at 11:23 AM.
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05-10-2008, 10:20 AM
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what do you want him to do, raise/fold with 11bb stacks? his play seems pretty standard to me
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05-10-2008, 11:17 AM
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i was sure this was gonna be about him sending money to some dude he played with on Stars who pretended to be a chick in need of money
(think it was him anyway)
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05-10-2008, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by squeezyplayer
what do you want him to do, raise/fold with 11bb stacks? his play seems pretty standard to me
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I think you did not read it right, maybe it was me, I edited
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05-10-2008, 11:33 AM
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He pushed KJo on the button in a HU match while he has almost twice his opponants stack!? Given the blinds, there is $150 in the pot and villain only has $1000 left. I'm ashamed.
Oh wait, now that I think about it... completely standard.
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05-10-2008, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mister.x
I think you did not read it right, maybe it was me, I edited
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no, i understood that gavin had 1900. effective stacks were only 1100 tough, meaning he would be priced in to call a shove. assuming he makes a standard open raise to 300, gavin will be getting 1400:800 odds to call when his opponent shoves, or 1.75:1. this means that he can profitably call with any hand that has at leat 36.4% equity against villain's range. if we assume a very reasonable shoving range of {22+,A2+,KQ}, KJo has nearly 39% equity, so it's definitely a call.
gavin knows all this and realizes that given he's gonna be getting all in anyway if villain doesnt fold, it's a better play to maximize fold equity and just shove. his biggest mistake imo was not sucking out
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05-10-2008, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DeeYakaBaka
i was sure this was gonna be about him sending money to some dude he played with on Stars who pretended to be a chick in need of money
(think it was him anyway)
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yea that was him, i am in complete agreement that gavin griffin is an idiot, but this hand was standard
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05-10-2008, 11:49 AM
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As per usual, Squeezy is right.
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05-10-2008, 03:29 PM
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I'm confused how is he an idiot?
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05-10-2008, 11:47 PM
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ya, pros are idiots
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