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04-18-2008, 01:57 AM
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Mike McDermott
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: London
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100 intergers isn't the best scale - realistically Wota and Eclipse are like 99.999999 and sbrugby etc are 99.99999999999999999999999999999 but massage the figures a bit.
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04-18-2008, 02:09 AM
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Mike McDermott
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Luton, England
Posts: 4,685
Limits Played: $2-$4 NL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeYakaBaka
if i ran like God on a consistent basis, id prob be in the top 1% too
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Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
9 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $455.85
UTG+1: $156.40
MP1: $135.95
MP2: $670.90
MP3: $447.70
CO: $44.00
Button: $81.50
Wota: $468.00
BB: $105.40
Pre-flop: ( 9 players) Wota is SB with
5 folds, CO raises all-in $44, Button folds, Wota calls $42 (pot was $50), BB folds.
Flop:  ( $92, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $92)
Turn:  ( $92, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $92)
River:  ( $92, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $92)
Results:
Final pot: $92
CO shows 9D 9S
Wota shows 9C 4S
Wota wins $92
What you trying to say?
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04-18-2008, 02:17 AM
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Super Moderator
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 6,555
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fair point wota.
and LOL at that hand.
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04-18-2008, 05:45 AM
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Stu Ungar
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,656
Limits Played: $1-$2 NL
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According to sharkscope 1/3 of players are winners (possibly marginal), this may or may not apply to cash games. But it makes sense intuitively, the worst players donate so much to mediocre players that the sharks cannot win all that money from the mediocre players.
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04-18-2008, 07:30 AM
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Mike McDermott
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 4,295
Limits Played: $1-$2 NL
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In a years time I see CTS writing whining posts on 2+2 about how the fuck is he going to beat me at $5000nl HU
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04-18-2008, 06:53 PM
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Mike McDermott
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Michigan
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Well according to OPR im in the 98th percentile online, top 500 in the world for online mtts
I feel I am an incredible live cash player, and people who play with me all the time feel the same
I feel I am decent at online cash and I suppose I could make money playing, but I hate playing online cash cause the swings are too gay compared to the games I crush
I'd say 90% of people on this forum are losing or break even (most of which don't know it)
edit: i guess I could add that I am horrible at limit, and horrible at omaha (unless its in a $1500 home game with used car salesman/drug dealers)
Last edited by tightagressive; 04-18-2008 at 06:56 PM.
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04-18-2008, 07:12 PM
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I donk off Wota's $$$
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,324
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look at the #s realistically.... No way more than 2 or 3% of players are long term winners, NO FUCKING WAY!
If 10% were long-term winners that means that every single table you sit at has 1 winning player at it. Even if the 25 or so higher limit tables that are going have 6 or 7 winners each, no way it offsets the 1,000s of 5/10 and lower limit tables (I won't even count anything below $1 limits and $25NL).
Since I've been playing live and online, I see people who appear to be winners come and go, what happened? they went broke. Live you get to know them, you see them going busto, and know it. you see them go from 5/10 up to 50/100, then you see them with their final $500 playing 2/4.
Anyone who is playing poker professionally talk to me after 4 or 5 years of it, when you've had 2 or 3 three month streaks of dead cards. It took me 2 years for my first one of those and I've had 1 other since, those are the times that you show you what type of poker player you are.
In the longrun 97% of players lose money, 3% or so win money, and the casino's just gobble up 90% of all the $$$.
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I find your response in this thread shallow, and pedantic...
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04-18-2008, 07:17 PM
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Mike McDermott
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: with your sister/wife/mom/gf
Posts: 4,718
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im the kind that makes $1k +/- $250 a month playing like 2 +/- 1 hours a day on average.
IDK what that falls into.
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04-18-2008, 09:12 PM
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Poker Professional
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,584
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MJPerry
#1 - What would you say the range of people are on this forum? (1% being the worst player imaginable and 99% being a near-perfect player)
#2 - What would you say you are?
#3 - Where do you see yourself being in a year's time?
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1. Probably 0-85% in the respective games that they play. For example, I might consider myself 85% for full ring, but in 6max or HU maybe 65%.
2. 85% for online full ring nl cash games.
3. 90-95% hopefully (for full ring nl).
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04-19-2008, 07:39 AM
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Stu Ungar
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brunson, Amarillo, Crandall? Do I need to say more.
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1. 1%-90%
2. In the games i play 95% overall 80%
3. 95%
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