I used to handily beat the party game, I would have to guess at around 8BB/100 over 1000 hands or so, but since I start playing again my stats are attrocious.

Over 842 hands, I have lost $43 (thank the Lord for bonuses), for a rate of -5.16BB/100.

This contrasts with the stupidly high 23.7BB/100 for 250 hands on UB.

The party games can be much more aggressive, and I seem to have lost most of those big aggressive pots, is this just variance I can recover from? Or do I have a fundamental problem on that site??

Maybe you're just not used to / good with that play style. 800 hands could just be variance, but I'd bet the change in play style is fucking with your game.

I did tighten up since I last played there, I may be missing some value.

Maybe split up your party hands and UB hands to check if there's a difference in your stats?

I have, they are almost identical, I did have one session where I played a little looser, but still all most of my losses came from A-flush vs SF and that kind of crap.

oh... well, i'm going to blame it on variance then and stop posting

I appreciate the advice, I am just at a loss, I did agree that I may have tightened up too much (post flop) for the tables and pot sizes.

I may have also gotten frustrated and chased a few times when I knew I shouldn't have.

I have also had tables go from manic loose aggressive, to tighter and more passive, I lost the pots when it was aggressive and won them when they were passive, lose big win small.

Do you play O8 manner? If so where.

Wasn't trying to agrue, I have spent a ton of time analyzing my play on party because it used to be so damn profitable.

Nope, don't play O8, just trying to examin based on your stats, I figure it can't be that much different from other games

hey Beav,

Omaha 8 is a weird game because the table dynamics greatly affect the way you should play. In hold em whether the game is passive or aggressive you play AA or KK the same, in Omaha 8 this is not the case. you need to change the way you play a hand like A23T from UTG in loose or tight games and so on.

I think a lot of your results are variance, if you have 5 dreadful beats that cost you 100 BB total, winning 3 of those 5 would turn you into a winner. Party definetly has the most aggressive Omaha 8 games on the net, you really need to work on identifying the loose raisers (JJ27 types) and play super aggressive yourself. if you have tightened your starting hand selection up where you may be losing a small amount of profit from marginal hands you need to make up for it by increasing the size of your winning strong hands.

On Party I raise any A2 + a wheel and a suited Ace, AA2, AA3 with a suited ace or another wheel, A345 type hands. I play aggressive because I know the people that will call a raise are shit players, good players generally need a strong hand to call so you can pinpoint their holding when they do call.

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I find your response in this thread shallow, and pedantic...

Thanks Steve, I am working on improving the aggression (like in my Big Pot post that one pot would have wiped out half my losses, and I was 3:1 to win it on the turn).