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04-15-2007, 02:55 PM
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10,000 checkup: Evaluate me please
Well 10,843 hand checkup. I need brutal evaluation from the better players. Help me find holes in my game please.

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04-15-2007, 04:37 PM
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Mike McDermott
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I suppose these stats are all right for full ring but you are leaving a crap ton of money out there not playing 6max. I can only comment on your stats from a 6maxer point of view but everything seems too low.
Your PF raise % should be over 15% for the style you play, and at the 6-max level it is, which is good. It looks like you play more aggressive there (even though it's only 40ish hands) so that's good.
But one glaring flaw in your game that I've noticed, and most will notice, your aggression factor is horrible post-flop. If anyone has a tracker going while they're playing you, they can clearly to see to give up post-flop if you're betting and raising. You're tighter than a rock post-flop.
Your flop aggro is pretty decent considering your style, I really like it for NL25. However, it's clear after you c-bet, you go nitty and fall into check-fold. I'm not necessarily saying try and make more moves, but make more moves  . Two barrel, stop-and-go, check-call into the check-raise, extract money any way you see fit. Don't just give up on your hands. If you have 2 overs, a flush draw, and a gut-shot...felt it.
I'm sure other more-experienced cash players can give more. I've only logged a total of 15-20K hands in ring.
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04-15-2007, 06:23 PM
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That NL25 is actually 90% 6max. Dont know how much that helps. But yes, I know very well that my postflop AF is pathetic. 
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04-15-2007, 07:33 PM
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You call too much postflop, but you know that. What sticks out the most is that your VPIP:PFR ratio goes down dramatically with position. You need to pick more hands and situations to raise/fold with in early position. People play so bad that you can limp and take postflop, yes, but that same logic has them not 3-betting/you taking more leads and check/folding less flops OOP. You'll be playing less multiway pots OOP, most importantly and your marginal hands that are tough to play postflop get easier to play.
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04-16-2007, 07:47 AM
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It is hard to say
I would say that the advice mentioned above is good but it is difficult to get a good bearing on your game by evaluating this level of play. These low level games attract unconventional play that skew the game. It is hard to test you ability to make moves in the game because of the stacks.
Overall, keep working on your game. It is more important to play behavior than your cards. By this I mean that cards speak for themselves because a full boat is a full boat and usually wins. The thing to work on is to know what the other guy is betting (is he on a draw, two pair, or fishing you in). Learn how to be a fisher of men.
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04-16-2007, 10:43 AM
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Have a look at this thread if you haven't already, there's a great bit about interpreting your stats:
The Official PT Thread
It mentions in there to try and keep your postflop AF at least 2, which was the one thing that jumped out at me. Also, to me you seem to loose in early position compared to late, and not aggressive enough when you do play in EP.
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04-17-2007, 10:48 AM
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Poker Professional
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just glancing over it, i see:
pfr is too low in relation to VPIP like alex said, I think it's very rare that we should be openlimping or not raising a lot behind multiple limpers to try and cut out the field. family pots are better for limit
won $ at showdown is really high, meaning that you are not getting to showdown enough in more "borderline" positions. this doesn't mean calling down when you know your middle pair is no good, but maybe try putting more pressure on people who apear weak etc
att to steal blinds is too low. no limit is clearly not a game based around blind stealing like limit is, but you should definately be more liberal with what you are raising later in position.
won $ when saw flop looks a little low but i'm not sure if that's just because more of the pots played at these limits tend to be very multiway rather than HU or 3way
WR doesn't look too bad though :]
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04-17-2007, 11:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bboy
won $ at showdown is really high, meaning that you are not getting to showdown enough in more "borderline" positions. this doesn't mean calling down when you know your middle pair is no good, but maybe try putting more pressure on people who apear weak etc
att to steal blinds is too low. no limit is clearly not a game based around blind stealing like limit is, but you should definately be more liberal with what you are raising later in position.
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What values should we be looking for in these 2? My won $ at showdown is up at 58 and the att to steal blinds at 22.6
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04-17-2007, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bboy
pfr is too low in relation to VPIP like alex said, I think it's very rare that we should be openlimping or not raising a lot behind multiple limpers to try and cut out the field.
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I limp all pocket pairs from UTG and beyond when anyone has limped in front of me. I will raise 99 and above from hijack if folded to me. What do you think of this strategy?
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04-18-2007, 06:27 PM
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Poker Professional
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in 6max i would open raise all pocket pairs in any position
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