Hiya,

(playing texax holdem no limit on coral)

I'm so fustrated with being called preflop after making a decent raise only to get blown out by someone holding j-8o or A-rag o.

I've been playing on the 10c and 25c. I've built my bankroll up to $300 from $20 so if i follow the rule of only ever playing with 5% of your stack thats where i should stay. But it's too tedious so i've been sat at the 50c tables.

Yet herei stil find that people will call your preflop raises with j8o or a5o even though i play tight. It's not like i've been bluffing loads or caught bluffing.

So my mate keeps telling me "sit on the $1 tables the standard is much better" so i do and quickly made some bucks from a nice tight game. However, i go all in once with my pocket kings against pocket aces and i've lost a third of my bankroll. Two more of those and i'm skint!

So what advice do you give for moving up the blinds? The books say play with 5% of your bankroll so to sit on a $100 that means i should have $2000 in the bank (which i haven't so could quickly lose the $200 i now have left) but the standard of play is much higher and you don't have to put up with so many bad beats...

K

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This is no limit ring - 5% of your bankroll is a what you can get away with if you are a winning player...

If j8 is calling you're preflop raise and then going on to stack you -

1] you've given the guy implied odds - in which case his call is justified
2] You haven't given the guy implied odds in which case you should be happy about it.....

The gigher you go up the limits- the harder the game is.. if you can't beat the donks then hwolare you going to beat none donks?

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Don't do it until you can afford it. If you are really losing a lot of money to the donks at the $0.50 tables then you need to figure out the leak in your game and plug it.

It sounds like you may have difficulties playing against loose opponents and maybe you are having trouble making tough laydowns. So instead of thinking that moving up to the $1 tables is going to make it easier for you, (cause it won't) you should pick a couple of books or start reading every thread on this forum until you can improve on those aspects of your game.

Trust me on this one, I've gone that route before. I blew my entire BR (+$600) when I moved up to the $1 tables too soon. You won't find a big change in the level of skill and the only difference you will see, as you already mentioned above, is that the bad beats hurt a LOT more than they did at $0.25 tables.

"gigher"?......"hwolare"?......DEME IS DRUNK!!!

Post some hand histories of losing to J8 or A5o.

if you are genuinely unlucky then you just need to learn to handle bad beats which will come with experience.

If you are playing badly people will let you know.

You should be enjoying playing against the people that call you with worse hands. They're the ones that put money into the game. Sure, it's difficult to take some bad beats on the chin, but you should be pleased when someone makes a bad or loose call, whether they hit or not.

And moving up limits will not get rid of the problem completely. There are bad players at every level, so stay within your bankroll!!

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Cheers guys,

I don't have a hand history as such but the a-rag off suit seems to happen a lot at the lower limits. As it does in live games. The amount of times i hear "yer gotta call when you've got an ace" down the boozer on a saturday afternoon...

The j8o happened when i was on the button with pocket q's. I raised 4 or 5 times the blinds, everyone folded and the big blind called with j8o

And i have noticed that your less likely to get called with a-rag-o at the higher limits. It's a tighter game and playing the odds seems to work better.

But i'm happy to work on my game some more at the lower limits and agree that i do have trouble playing against loose opponents and making tough laydowns.

I do let go of hands more often these days although its still difficult when the only hand you can play in an hour gets out flopped... but i am improving.

But yeah loose opponents do still phase me sometimes.

In a nutshell how should do you handle these guys? Personally i like to sit back, wait for a monster then take them out.

But what if you're not getting any cards? You can't bluff a numpty cos they'll just call for the gamble. When they'res bigger money in the pot and your opponents appreciate pot odds they'll usually fold when they should but you don' often find these players at the lower limits.

1 hand an hour, that's not too much. You must be playing really tight. You can probably play a few more hands if other's hand requirements are as low as you say.

It really is simple. Never bluff these fools.

I could beat most $100NL games online without ever making 1 bluff.

But remember, you don't want your opponents to fold when they should (just like you don't want them calling or raising when they should.) You benefit from your opponents mistakes. The bigger the mistake they make, the better you should be able to exploit it.

If you've got loose players that call too much, make them pay. Start raising 5/6/7 times the BB if thats what it takes. Start overbetting the pot if you find people are chasing too much. If you can make them pay on the times that they DON'T suck out on you then it will more than make up for the losses when they do.