Thats not typical... especially since i've been playing in the 5 handed games. But when my kings lost to aces... which i can live with... it was the first playable hand in an hour.

I do usually end up winning at the 50c's tables... I quit after an hour or two or if i've doubled up. I think one of the reasons my bankrolls never made it past 350 is i still play drunk sometimes and lose all my hard work lol

I only want them to fold when i'm bluffing or they're on a drawing hand and i don't want them to hit Then i raise the odds

I'm not actually losing to them... i'm still up to 300 from 100 over 2 weeks on the 50c's. Prior to that i'd ben playing mostly 10c and 25c. I'm just tired of being called by rags and believe there will be less of this at the higher limits... however one bad run at the higher limits will demolish a $300 bankroll.

As we speak... 50c 5 handed table. Preflop raise on the button of $2 with pockets 8's (been playing tight so seemed like a reasonable semi bluff). Big blind calls me and another caller. Flop comes out bb goes all in i get out. Turns out he's got 79o. Didn't see what the second caller had... was too dumbfounded

People are going to call with "rags" at all levels. Look at players like Hansen or Flaak, they make their living off of "rags" and they play at some of the highest levels out there.

I myself play a pretty loose game and I seem to play it well. There are times when I would call a raise with J8os on the button but I dont think it makes me a donk. You must understand that there are all kinds of different playing styles out there as well as different levels of skill. The best thing you can do is to try and adjust your game to play against those various styles/skill levels instead of trying to run away from them to a nice safe, tight table.

Haven't these guys got a read on their opponent because its live and they know their oppoenent?

Or maybe they're calling because they've been folding lots to raises and want to show strength to someone who's been taking advantage?

Plus these guys are at another level...

A big preflop raise from the dealer button when you are on the bb and with no read on your opponent other than monster cards being turned over at showdown?

Get Pokertracker or PokerOffice. Log 50K-100K hands at NL25. If your BB/100 doesn't look shabby...move up. Otherwise, keep grinding.

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If he knows how tight you're playing and can flop 2 pair, trips, or a straight, he knows he's stacking you with your QQ+. His implied odds now involve all of your chips. He's playing you, not his cards.

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Define big. If I know you're going to get married to your hand and are willing to donk off your entire stack when the flop comes J8x then maybe. Not to say YOU are but you get my point.

Hmmm i have been meaning to. Guess its time. Whats my BB/100?

This is all related to implied odds, table image and adjusting play to your opponent right? This what i should be reading up on yeah?

5x the BB... you're confirming what Seany says... he might be reading me... Don't think he was that intelligent lol but this clearly needs looking at.

arrgghh.

Just got nailed by k7s with my pocket A's

I raised 3xbb from the small blind pre flop.

BB calls everyone else folds
kh 5c 7s comes out i check hoping he'll bet as igood chance he's got a king but he checks too.
another rag (can't remember but no draws so i check again) on the turn, he checks
Qh on the river.
I bet $4
he raises to $7
I reraise to $23
He calls and wins with two pair

Thats twice in one session.

Now i probably played that wrong post flop but why did he call preflop? Have they got the read on me? Should i have bet more than 3xbb? He'd been playing tight and folding lots so didn't want to scare him off but then he calls with a drawing hand and hits two pair!

What can i do to stop these calls? Or are they really that clever on the 50c's. I believe he called because he had a high card with same suit rag. Or am i being too complacent?

Also, i thought that you should only call a tight player if you have a good hand. That you should only call loose players with drawing hands and if a tight player (like me) raises then you should respect that.

Still say he thought k7s was a good hand lol

Raise more, especially out of position. If you're raising a small amount because you're looking for action, don't be upset when you get the action you're looking for.

Go get No Limit Hold 'Em Theory and Practice. It really helped me with implied odds.