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Old 01-15-2005, 06:12 PM
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PokerStars Game #1083380073: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/01/15 -
21:00:57 (ET)
Table 'Iolanda' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: thrasher99 ($42.55 in chips)
Seat 2: nose51 ($7.95 in chips)
Seat 3: bigd31go ($3.60 in chips)
Seat 4: TRVLNMN ($28.30 in chips)
Seat 5: D4ShoP4Do ($7.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Salinger ($10.10 in chips)
Seat 7: Cuzz ($20.05 in chips)
Seat 8: boosegallo ($23.50 in chips)
Seat 9: bonchkid ($22.90 in chips)
TRVLNMN: posts small blind $0.10
D4ShoP4Do: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bonchkid [Ah Ac]
Salinger: calls $0.25
Cuzz: folds
boosegallo: folds
bonchkid: raises $0.75 to $1
thrasher99: folds
nose51: calls $1
bigd31go: calls $1
TRVLNMN: folds
D4ShoP4Do: calls $0.75
Salinger: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [3s 7d 9d]
D4ShoP4Do: checks
Salinger: bets $0.75
bonchkid: raises $3.25 to $4
nose51: folds
bigd31go: folds
D4ShoP4Do: raises $2.75 to $6.75 and is all-in
Salinger: calls $6
bonchkid: ?


I realize I'm actually calling all of Salingers chips, since they would go in on fourth or the river anyways.
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Old 01-15-2005, 06:32 PM
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It is only 2.75 more, and salinger didnt raise, I would set him all-in.

But realise I have never folded AA in a NL game - a weakness I am sure (folded quite a big in limit though and always right).

That pot is looking good though.
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D4ShoP4Do did not re-open the betting with his raise. You can't set him all-in here.
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Wow. A lot of people saw this flop. As tempting as the pot is, this is an ugly flop for two people to feel so good about. My head says fold while my fingertips want to call until I realize that Salinger barely has enough to cover my flop call to put in the side pot. And, in all honesty these blinds were the last to call preflop and had a hand, but not one worth protecting preflop as they feared being re-raised and those are the hands that you're scared of here.

This is enough for my head to convice my fingertips to fold.
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This is definitely player dependant.

I could be totally wrong, I admit I am too loose with AA post flop, but short stacks never give you credit for made hand, I feel you are probably up against two pair at WORST (although a set if possible). Most likely someone with TPTK or overpair (like TT) and a draw. Even against two pair you will have a lot of outs to the river.
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What's interesting about this flop is that you could be up against tens or a set of threes. Something smells fishy here, but I see where you're comin' from, Beav.
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You can even be against a flush draw or a straight draw.. I would had called at a 0.1/0.25 table with this flop every time, expecting to lose some times but end up winning on the long run.
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i would do it, but i have a hard time folding AA unless i know im killed, btw wht happened after that?
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I'll post in probly about a half hour, let a few more people respond.
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Call, but don't be happy about it :-p

Note for yourself after the 4 calls for a 4xbb: RAISE MORE WITH ACES

the pot's around $22 and it's only 2.75 to call, you're getting your money's worth to call even if you're already up against a set

Edit: wait, sorry I forgot about Salinger, it's actually bad to call against a set here (i suppose it always is) but as stated before, that's not very likely, you'reprobably up against two pair at worst and it's worth a call

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