I was in a $20 STT today, about the third hand in when this happens.


Everyone has about $800, the starting stack size. BB is $20

I'm UTG+1 With AQo.

UTG folds, Hero raises to $75, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $343, MP3 folds, Cut off goes All-in $800, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero folds (reluctantly), EP2 calls.

For a start what do people make of this fold? Baring in mind I had no reads. I thought it was an obvious fold, I figured one of them for at least TT+ and I didn't fancy racing my chips off on a 50/50 this early on.

The rest of the post is in white incase people want to post on what they think these guys had and whether or not it was a good fold etc etc.

Anyway as it turns out EP2 has K9s and our beloved Cut-off has Q9s. (gotta love those suited cards)

board is Queen high so I would have stacked the pair of them.

Damn I'm fed up of playing by the rules, sometimes I just want to go mad and call with silly cards or marginal holdings. Oh well. I guess I should be glad that people like this are on there but it's annoying!

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Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

:kh :jd

Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:

you're UTG+1 with AQo on the third hand of a SNG........it shouldnt have been a reluctant fold when you were faced with an all-in bet.......for me, it was an easy fold when the action hit you the first time.

im no genius when it comes to SNGs but what i have learned from experience is that im gonna fold everything except AA-KK, AKs and possibly QQ, depending on action before me, during the first few levels of a SNG till these wannabes knock each other out with their rags.

i can remember off hand at least 3 SNGs where i folded my way into 3rd spot all thanks to donks knocking each other out with nothing but rags

a major skill to have in SNGs is patience......everything comes to those who wait and when it does come, you can then stack them because you WILL get action from these same clowns.
if it doesnt come when you wait, well it wasnt gonna come anyway so theres no point in rushing it


theres a lot of excellent threads on strategies for SNGs somewhere here that can help you more than anything i can say........i know Steve-O started one bout Party SNGs a long time ago that really put me on my way and Irexes also had a few gems along the way......if you search using their names, you should hit upon plenty of wisdom.

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I open fold this. I agree with Dee on this. In the early levels of SNGs, my VP$IP is like 3 lol. Let the donks beat each other until the blinds start getting high, then outplay the donks.

The only thing better than an early double up is an idiot who doubles up early.

hmm, I pretty much only play STTs and this month have a 50% ROI (for 80 STTs) and an overall ROI of about 30% so I'm happy with my strategy.

I can't see folding AQ to the blind is a good idea just because it's early and some donk might go mad. Why not play as you normally would, ie a decent raise and if they then go mad you can let it go with no real loss. What if this hadn't gone mad, i'd had 2 callers and I'd hit hard on the flop?

I can't see how your an idiot for doubling up early if the opportunity arrises, I understand what your saying if your trying to double up like our friends in my post but not if you do it after the flop once you have the goods.

But it has come, I've got AQ, that's a decent hand. What if you get AQ, KQ, JJ, AJ and TT all in the first couple of rounds and you fold the lot just incase someone goes mad, you've wasted all your good chances to build a stack and now you may not get anymore good cards and you'll be forced to make a stand with A8 or suited connectors or something.

Maybe this is where we are different, I'm going for 1st not 3rd!

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Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

:kh :jd

Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:

ify our going for first you call, if your going for third you fold, in general.

in this case, if your going to bust, you call.

muck it fast.

i dont really get board b/c i play 6 max. also i play 3-7 tables. so its fun.

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Are you talking after their raises or when I am first to act?

If your talking once they have gone mad then it's an obvious fold as you could easily be in a lot of trouble or a 50/50.

If your talking when I first act then why call? Surely you don't want all the J7's and K4's coming along for the ride? Blinds are only 10/20 so the whole world and his wife will play for that if you don't raise it a bit.

The raise narrows the field enough that you don't have to worry too much when the board comes AJ7, where as if you just limp then you get into trouble as J7 could be in there.

Surely this is standard stuff and it doesn't matter when in the tournement it is, play properly at all times! Yes play tighter at the start but that doesn't mean throwing things away or limping like a little girl just because other people might go mad.

I'm interested in everyones opinons here, I thought everyone would be ok with the pre-flop raise. I'm very suprised!

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Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

:kh :jd

Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:

people who aim for first risk busting alot more. so, when you go all in pf w/ AQ, your aiming @ tripling or doubling up. thus you are aiming for 1st. If you fold, you are waiting for a better spot. whil this is more +EV, it means you might not come in first.

this is, if we consider busting out to be a non-factor.

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i like limping like little girls early in SNGs.

you make money every time you get itm, whether it be 3rd or 1st.......im not willing to push with AQo on the first level cos id prefer to wait till i know i have the best hand before i commit myself........at this stage, it doesnt bother me whether i just limp into the top 3 or whether im CL going in, so long as i get there.

any raise less than pushing will likely get numerous callers during the frst few levels and once the flop comes, where are we?

sure the flop is A high, i have TPGK but that first clown who called your pf raise has A3o and hes after flopping a set of 3s......he didnt call your raise with A3o? course he did

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I think you played it fine

ot but where do you play lamby? I thought you were on Stars too

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gotta agree, i love to see a idiot double up early because he fucks up the whole play of the table which suits me as a conservative player.

-fools

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