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Old 07-23-2006, 04:06 AM
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I currently have $538.40 ish spread over 2 different sites, it was three but I cut one back.The idea of this is using the Chris Ferguson method of sitting with 5% of your total bankroll at a table, waiting for good cards, namely AA-KK in most cases and doubling up - leaving when you have doubled up to 10%

Needless to say Im obviously going to have to push AK,AQ, and a few others in some cases probably QQ and JJ but itll be much tighter than what ive been playing currently.

Im usually a 33% preflop guy. This is probably going to be close to sickly low levels - its something I just want to see if I can do and namely for how long.

5% at current is: $26.92
10% at current is: $53.84 (Would probably leave at $50)

This will probably mean sitting at a .10/.20 or .25/.50 NL table in order to look to double up within an hour. I know this isnt proper bankroll management as such but in my opinion if I can make 5% last (not to lose it) over 4/5 sit ins then itll be decent enough. Plus if I start to lose, my 5% sit in will go down rapidly and everytime I will be losing less and less... Whilst potentially if my 5% goes up, winning more and more - Im also clearing a bonus on Betfred and want to give the higher tables a try, Im near enough bankrolled for the .10/.20 games now.


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Old 07-23-2006, 04:51 AM
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Good Luck Dude.

If you are planning to buy in with $25 and play an all in with big hands preflop strategy I would reccomend playing at least .25/.50 if not even .50/1, leaving you with 50bb or 25bb respectively.

If you are sat with a stack much over 50bb your big hands will start to lose value as people have implied odds to crack them and you have less chance of your pre-flop or flop all in bets being called by marginal hands, since people will fear more betting on further streets.
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Old 07-23-2006, 05:33 AM
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i did this strategy, it works! doesnt have to be totally preflop strategy... just sit where youve got a good stack with 5%.


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Old 07-23-2006, 08:47 AM
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5% at current is: $26.92
10% at current is: $53.84 (Would probably leave at $50)
Make that $47.01 got it up that high playing 3 handed on a full table and a few seconds later its back at $12, still got it going though and im clearing betfred points like never before!

I guess I could even really aim for $40 or so, but it just doesnt seem like much of an improvement, if I was on average to make 25 over 6 sessions out of ten my bankroll would be improving, even if I won 50% of these sessions It would clear the bonus much faster.

EDIT - lost first 5%, 5% down to $25.55, bankroll at $511

QQ limp which didnt get a raise so I couldnt reraise, came KAQ, went all in guy held TJ

EDIT2 - very next 5% buyin get QQ, I raise, get reraise by 66, reraised all in by JJ and I call, the pot at this pooint is $117 since I got my 2nd buyin up a little - I win the pot... fucking fantastic - excuse my swearing biggest pot ever

Bankroll at $606.83 , 5% buyin at $30.34

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Good luck, man. I'm working my bankroll up too. Started with $34, followed the 5% rule, and now I'm right around $300. It takes a lot of discipline but so far it's working. Keep us posted on how you're progressing.
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The strategy you are describing is the short stack method of going all-in alot.

The problem is if you are bringing 5% of your roll in everytime you are going to take alot of major, major swings. I've short stacked a fair bit and often lose 7-8 buy-ins and that could really kick your roll in the nuts if you do it.

I think that 5% is fine when you are playing full-stacks, but then I don't think you can really use the SS method.
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The strategy you are describing is the short stack method of going all-in alot.

The problem is if you are bringing 5% of your roll in everytime you are going to take alot of major, major swings. I've short stacked a fair bit and often lose 7-8 buy-ins and that could really kick your roll in the nuts if you do it.

I think that 5% is fine when you are playing full-stacks, but then I don't think you can really use the SS method.
If I was to lose 5 consecutive buyins, then I would simply switch back to my other tactics. Although I still think I will be able to maintain a 50% win rate from these sessions. Im only really playing AA,KK, and maybe AK,QQ as all in hands, anything else im literally folding it someone comes over the top.

I feel this method can work quite well for me. Only time will tell... ive played 3 buyins as such so far and doubled up once, lost one once and tripled the other one up. A good run so far...



....but I need a bigger sample size I know...
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dont think AK should be a all iner - the only calls you will get are QQ 5050 KK dominated AA dominated and AQ you dominate them.

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dont think AK should be a all iner - the only calls you will get are QQ 5050 KK dominated AA dominated and AQ you dominate them.
If you are sat at a table with 20bb you will be suprised. Your all in can be called by 77+, A7+, KQs. People really show short stacks no respect.
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Old 07-24-2006, 09:10 AM
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This exercise will really work my discipline.

Especially in terms of preflop hand selection, I have to play tight, I cant put QQ all in easily like before, since AA,KK are likely to be out there.. especially if I get heavily reraised preflop.

Current stats:

Bankroll $594.05
5% : $29.20

Will update this every few sessions.
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