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Old 07-20-2006, 07:12 PM
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I wish I hadn't sold back my Business Law textbook. Or that I had retained much of what I learned on the way to an A. But if I had, I could eloquently explain why it isn't as simple as you make it sound, Steve.

Just like with pro athletes, just because these guys have a good life doesn't mean they should look the other way when someone is doing them wrong.
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There were very few other Large buy-in events for these guys to play in, so They were basically forced to sign these lopsided contracts
outside the WSOP there still are very few 10K buy-in events.
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:19 PM
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No, it is as simple as I make it sound. Unfortunately, in the USA we throw being responsible for our actions and common sense out the window. I'm not saying they won't win, I'm saying they shouldn't.

Here is how it should work.

Judge: Did you sign this?

Lederer: Yes

Judge: case closed

Did Mike Sexton hold a gun to his head and say "sign this". If you sign something, take responsibility for signing it and realize the ramifications of signing something.
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I absolutely love how contracts mean nothing in America.
Right, I am sure contract never get legally challenged in other countries.

They didn't break the contract, they are saying that the contract is illegal from a anti-trust standpoint, basically saying that the WPT has created a monoply.

Annie Duke and Chris Ferguson really haven't been helped much by the WPT. Howard did make a few final tables got some good exposure, but some of these guys also helped create the WPT.

There are plenty of circumstances where contracts are cannot be legally enforced, I think this law suit is a good thing, and if the players win it will not do any harm to the WPT, and possibly help it be bringing a bunch of big names back.

I didn't see that these guys are asking for a big monetary awards, just to have the contracts nulled.
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I didn't see that these guys are asking for a big monetary awards, just to have the contracts nulled.
Exactly, so I won't point a finger. Like I said earlier, businesspeople's sole objective is to raise profit. The WPT is not a league and the pros are not their players, giving these pros the ultimate wiggle room. The less pros that are available for TV tables, the less people watch it on TV and that's where the pros have the upper hand and I'd use that hand, too.

Anything for another buck that don't hurt nobody is fair game and I'd say that both are playing the game well, thus far.
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The less pros that are available for TV tables, the less people watch it on TV and that's where the pros have the upper hand and I'd use that hand, too.

I disagree. Nobody knew who these guys were, the WPT made the names. It's not the names that bring in viewers, it's the money. Every Ivey, Hellmuth, Ferguson can be replaced with a Joe cassidy, Alan goehring, tuan le. The WPT decides who the stars are and the people it has made stars should understand this.

What did Negraneau earn before he went wild one year on the WPT? before that he was just another player earning a living at the tables. Noww he has excusive deals with a casino, website, book deals, etc. The WPT makes the players not the other way around.

The WPT is no way a monopoly, you can ply the poker trade freely almost anywhere you please. The WPT is a company and companies expect to be compensated for creating mega-stars, call it a finders fee.

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I'm sure they do but not to the extent they do here. The US is a litigation culture, like no other place on earth. Like I said, be a man and own up to what you signed. otherwise don't play the WPT tournies
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