Cake Poker
Home
News
Articles
Site Reviews
Book Reviews
Interviews
Chat
Tournaments
60% Rakeback
50% RakebackNew!
125% Rakeback
Probabilities
Glossary
Poker Gear
Links
Advertise
User Name  
 
Password
Cookie?  
 
 
Poker Players on Launchpoker.com
LaunchPoker.com provides you with all the information you need about this year's WSOP event, from the 2008 WSOP schedule to the latest 2008 WSOP updates.
Online poker reviews of rooms such as Full Tilt Poker, Poker Stars and Titan Poker.
Extras

RakeBack
PokerListings

Go Back PokerForums.org > General > General Poker Discussion > Sensible targets?

Notices

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-23-2006, 12:40 AM
Lamby100's Avatar
River Rat
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 331
Trade Rating: (0)
Default Sensible targets?

What would be a sensible monthly target for playing NL cash games?

I had a go last night, I played the 0.05/0.10 game and ended about $7 up after a couple of hours, I have $300 in this poker account so I assume I am properly rolled to play this level?

Obviously I know that it totally depends on the run of cards etc, but say I was to play about 40 hours a month, on average what sort of return should I be looking to achieve?
__________________
Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

:kh :jd

Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:



Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Personal Poker Pal
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-23-2006, 01:04 AM
gder03's Avatar
Mike McDermott
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: with your sister/wife/mom/gf
Posts: 4,718
Trade Rating: (0)
Limits Played: $0.02-$0.04 Limit
Default

20 bucks a month if your good. 40 if you are very good.
__________________
I get more ass than a toilet seat. All shapes/colors/sizes.

caution:
http://girlvideos.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-23-2006, 01:08 AM
Lamby100's Avatar
River Rat
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 331
Trade Rating: (0)
Default

Seems a poor return for 40 hours work. How did you come to those figures? Did you just pluck them out of the sky?
__________________
Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

:kh :jd

Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:



Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-23-2006, 01:24 AM
gder03's Avatar
Mike McDermott
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: with your sister/wife/mom/gf
Posts: 4,718
Trade Rating: (0)
Limits Played: $0.02-$0.04 Limit
Default

10 handed. ufll table = 1 hand a minute. 60 hands/hr. 2400 totals hands for 40 hours.

if your a good player, you make 10bb/every 100 hands.
if you are a pro, you make 20bb/100 hands.



keep dreaming.
__________________
I get more ass than a toilet seat. All shapes/colors/sizes.

caution:
http://girlvideos.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-23-2006, 02:01 AM
Lamby100's Avatar
River Rat
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 331
Trade Rating: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gder03
keep dreaming.
I hope that wasn't meant the way it could be taken, I'll assume not.

The only reason I said it seemed like a poor return is because I'm currently making $300 a month from SnG tourneys.

Using your maths I guess I would have to play $0.5/$1.00 tables to see a similar return to my SnGs. Does the quality improve at this level and what sort of Bank roll do you require?
__________________
Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

:kh :jd

Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:



Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-23-2006, 02:31 AM
xxdemexx's Avatar
Poker Professional
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 1,815
Trade Rating: (0)
Default

try to help here.

If you play at 0.05/0.1 level the way to make money is to have about 10 (ten) tables open at the same time. Deep stack and wait for AA,KK,QQ and trips. FR.

In this manner you can "play" 600 hands an hour and will make about $10-$15/hour. Tribeca tables are good for this because the software is very fast and the play is soft.

If you can find a bonus on top of this (which clears at this level (rare)) you might put on another couple of dollars an hour.

To move up limits you start needing Pokertracker and you need to drop a few tables (well I do at least). This can take you up to about $25 an hour with bonuses.

SNGs are Ok but how many do you play at the same time? Is that $300 variance?
__________________
See me playing $10/$20NL like it was play money

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...405&q=xxdemexx

Doberman: "but Sarge, isn't poker gambling and just luck?"
Sgt. Bilko:" not the way I play it"
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 06-23-2006, 03:16 AM
Lamby100's Avatar
River Rat
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 331
Trade Rating: (0)
Default

Thanks Deme.

My $300 includes variance. I have had months where I made over $500 and others where I made less than $100. I think $300 is about my average.

The reason I am looking at cash tables is because I don't think I will ever be able to make more than the $300 in SnGs. I also find it very frustrating when like last night people catch runner-runner straights to knock you out of a SnG (see my sig), at least at a cash table you can keep going against that person and get your money back.

I already use Poker Office and find it very useful. It is currently at home keeping a watchful eye on potential opponents!

I don't usually multitable but I have been known to do up to 4 at a time, I think any more than that would be too much like hard work.

I think I might try 2 tables at $0.05/$0.10 and 2 at $0.10/$0.20, that way I guess my target for the month would be about $200.
__________________
Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

:kh :jd

Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:



Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 06-23-2006, 08:33 PM
KRE8R's Avatar
NL20 Grinder...
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 7,015
Trade Rating: (3)
Limits Played: $0.10-$0.25 NL
Send a message via AIM to KRE8R
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxdemexx
try to help here.

If you play at 0.05/0.1 level the way to make money is to have about 10 (ten) tables open at the same time. Deep stack and wait for AA,KK,QQ and trips. FR.

In this manner you can "play" 600 hands an hour and will make about $10-$15/hour. Tribeca tables are good for this because the software is very fast and the play is soft.

If you can find a bonus on top of this (which clears at this level (rare)) you might put on another couple of dollars an hour.

To move up limits you start needing Pokertracker and you need to drop a few tables (well I do at least). This can take you up to about $25 an hour with bonuses.

SNGs are Ok but how many do you play at the same time? Is that $300 variance?
Now in this strategy, are you just going all in with those top hands, or seeing the flop and playing them normal?
__________________
Lots of good rakeback options at http://www.raketherake.com/?refer=RTR25126

KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 06-24-2006, 02:43 PM
tightagressive's Avatar
Mike McDermott
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,077
Trade Rating: (1)
Limits Played: Play Money
Send a message via AIM to tightagressive
Default

how many sngs have you played
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 06-25-2006, 01:00 AM
xxdemexx's Avatar
Poker Professional
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 1,815
Trade Rating: (0)
Default

deep stack to 50x bb. (much bigger than this and you tend not to get as many callers..

AA = try to get all-in preflop but massive bet any way
KK,QQ JJ big bet (were talking 1/3-1/2 stack preflop). If no over card lands then all-in otherwise stop betting - yes he DID call with A2 os!!! you must not pay off A rag holders..lower pps freeze up with an ace on the board so check dowsn (gets drawing hands mid pp ).

TT - how you feel between high and mid pairs.

Mid/low pairs limp in for trips. assuming cost to get in is <10x your stack and you're covered , there's one other limper (you want someone to hit).

AK becomes marginal at low limits because ppl will push with any PP which dominates you.. so fold..

Thie is of course 0.05/0.1 level - dont try this at higher limits...

The strategy works because ppl wont put down pps or strong drawing hands.

The times you are dominate (QQ v's AA) are outweighed by the guy who call with AJ.. (drawing hands are 4x more common than made hands)
__________________
See me playing $10/$20NL like it was play money

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...405&q=xxdemexx

Doberman: "but Sarge, isn't poker gambling and just luck?"
Sgt. Bilko:" not the way I play it"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:24 PM.

   Designed by
      
No Deposit Bonus
Poker Strategy
Poker Rooms
PartyPoker Bonus Codes
Online Poker Strategy
Online Casino Bonuses
Pokerspiele
Casinos That Accept USA Players
Poker Rakeback
Full Tilt bonus code
Rakeback
Poker Site USA
Nowadays in the Internet the Players are looking for a good Casino Bonus to find the best possible options for online Roulette.There is now the option of RtlPoker and a nice Casino Bonus to play some other games then just Poker.
The ideal casino site for gokkasten and even online poker including online casino games that can be found on mijn online casino, your casino information site for when gambling online or even offline.
Party Poker bonus code & room review
Tony G talks about his experinces in his blog
REVIEW OF PARADISE POKER WEBSITE
Online Poker Room Directory and latest poker news
Best Online Poker info on Internet!
Ultimate Bet new 40% deposit bonus
Copyright © 2004-2008 PokerForums.org, a Merendi Networks Inc. project.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.