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Old 06-19-2006, 02:24 PM
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6 max or full ring

WHY?

im playing waaay low right now at 1/2 if it makes a differnce
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full ring, more ppl in every hand, more money, better odds to call, bigger pots.
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I agree. Its more costly per round playing six max. If you are underrolled you want to play full ring.
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Old 06-19-2006, 04:40 PM
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full ring can be pretty tight, but you generally can get by playing your hand, 6max requires playing the player more.
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Old 06-19-2006, 06:22 PM
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6 max

Poker is about mistakes, avoiding them and exploiting them. In 6 max you're bad opponents are involved in more hands and will therefor make more mistakes. Conversely with less players there is less likelihood of being up against other good players so you will routinely be contesting pots with only 1 or 2 other players in it. This increases your chances of being up against bad players and exploiting their mistakes.

Just adjust your pre-flop accordingly and you'll be fine. it is not more expensive to play, it just seems it. If you play the same hands you would in full ring than yes it will be more costly per round. However, if you adjust accordingly you will win more pots thus offsetting the speed the blinds come around.
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your skill > their skill

so exploit it, bitches
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Steve o. How would the bad players be involved more often in 6 max?

Wouldn't there be more bad players at the full ring? Or do you mean just because you will play more games?

Also, what do you mean by adjusting hand strategy for 6max?

What is your criteria? Do you mean cutting out calling with cards that you need lots of people to see the flop with ? e.g small/medium pocket pairs, medium suited connectors etc?

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To me it feels that full ring limit games online are really dieing, the games become tight and infested by players who like to play ABC tight ass poker. Obviously if you are playing a limit that doesn't have 6-max available then you don't have this problem.

6-max attracts the action junkies and the fish, they think they can play almost every hand. It also forces you to play better poker by reading your opponents.

The downsides are it can be a bit more stressful, more borderline decisions to make. You pay more in rake, look closely at the rake schedule at the site and limit you play this can be a big issue and definately get rakeback if you can. The varience is higher and tilt can become a bigger factor.
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Steve o. How would the bad players be involved more often in 6 max?

Wouldn't there be more bad players at the full ring? Or do you mean just because you will play more games?
Suppose someone plays every hand. How often will you be able to play against this person in full ring, mano y mano? Not very often. In 6 max you will be heads up or 3 way vs this person more often. Since,

A) Your hand selection can be lowered, not only for the shorthandedness but to isolate the maniac

B) It is less likely another player will have a hand that is better due to the shorthandedness.

It is much easier to raise AT and isolate the maniac and possibly the too loose BB then simply use your position and skill to exploit their mistakes.

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Also, what do you mean by adjusting hand strategy for 6max?

What is your criteria? Do you mean cutting out calling with cards that you need lots of people to see the flop with ? e.g small/medium pocket pairs, medium suited connectors etc?
Well yes, I mean cutting out hands that are no good shorthanded. However the hands you mention I open raise with from almost every position + suited Aces.

What I REALLY meant was,

A) loosen up your requirements, especially when you are opening the pot.

B) Raise more often to gain position, isolate, and attack the blinds

Alex has posted on this. If you play 1.5-2 hands an orbit + your blind in a full game, you should play a similar amount per orbit in 6 max. this means your VPIP will go from 15-20% up to 24-33%. Mine has nestled in at just under 26%
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Thanks steve o.

I'm still a bit confused about the starting hands. I suppose your view is one gained from experience. I'm fairly new, and have been reading small stakes holdem book of late, where the starting hand requirements are a lot tighter. However, this is for full ring.

You think it's best to stick with these until you get more experience?

I'm not confdent raising with a2s for example from early position.

Thanks again.
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