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Old 06-16-2006, 05:17 PM
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I cannot find a hand converter that works, have just spent about 20 minutes looking and they all seem to have an error.

Very early in a $10+1 STT blinds are 15-30

Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 10: brainz1 ( $1040 )
Seat 1: iceblue0 ( $660 )
Seat 2: Tbonezz ( $1595 )
Seat 3: jetpac90 ( $1215 )
Seat 5: aakogan ( $848 )
Seat 8: Lamby100 ( $890 )
Seat 9: KT14 ( $1752 )
jetpac90 posts small blind [$15].
aakogan posts big blind [$30].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Lamby100 [ Kc Ad ]
Lamby100 raises [$90].
KT14 folds.
brainz1 folds.
iceblue0 folds.
Tbonezz folds.
jetpac90 raises [$135].
aakogan calls [$120].
Lamby100 calls [$60].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, Jh, 9s ]
jetpac90 goes All-in [$1065].
aakogan goes All-in [$698].

...

Now what?????
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Old 06-16-2006, 05:26 PM
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You're getting over 2:1 on your money and you have TPTK (considering). If someone's all-in with KK or QQ, you got 'em.

I doubt you would've been re-raised with AJ PF so I think you're fine here. Possible someone hit a set but with those odds, I'm risking it.
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Old 06-16-2006, 05:44 PM
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Now what?????
Now what - what???? You have TPTK and a two guys offering up their chips! What has you beat?
AA - should have re-raised pf but only raised by 60?? Possible!
A-J - should have just called pf
A-9 - should have folded pr - donks excepted.
KK - should have raised pf - Their beat so far anyway
QQ - see KK above
JJ- should have just called but well it happens sometimes doesn't it.
99 - same as above - shit happens!

I have a question - were you ever really thinking about folding? Seriously?
I play these SnGs all the time and going all-in with bottom pair or a gutshot str8 are not uncommon at levels 1 - 3. It's donkeyville for the first third of the tourney and you probably just roped in two prime ones!
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Old 06-16-2006, 06:11 PM
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Old 06-17-2006, 03:25 AM
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Not only did I think about folding, I actualy did fold. I don't really know why but something about the 2 of them going all in so fast after that flop made me panic, I hadn't commited too many chips and I just felt like one of them must have trips or two pair.

As it turns out I'm glad I did as jetpac90 showed AJ, the other joker had KT.
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Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

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Old 06-17-2006, 05:42 AM
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i dont think that folding is a horrible play since u have 2 all ins infront of you but because you are getting low on chips i might call with the chance to almost tripple up
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Old 06-17-2006, 01:13 PM
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i dont think that folding is a horrible play since u have 2 all ins infront of you but because you are getting low on chips i might call with the chance to almost tripple up
Folding is always a option and certainly never wrong in hindsight except in a tourney there are few enough prime hands that come our way AND hit the flop too. If I can't call this with TPTK, what do I need to call with? I can't expect to flop the FH in order to call an all-in.

I'm assuming the AJ held up or that the KT made its gutshot str8 so in hindsight our hero made a 'good' laydown. Can't say that I would have!
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preflop Id go all in. Flop Id fold.
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Old 06-17-2006, 07:07 PM
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I just read results and im a genius.

This flop is so easy to fold. You screwed up this hand by calling PF. Hand 1 might be going all in w/ draw, weak ace, strong middle pair. when hand two calls, this is an aout fold. you dont even need to think "what would he do it w/"

AK, AQ, AT?? sometimes. usually stronger hands though.

However, If you raise pf, asee a flop and play vs AJ dude, you will prolly go bust.
Lucky you play so tight.
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I like to take a flop with AK early, especially with position. You got all of the messages you need to fold. You're up against at least AJ, if not JJ. You've got a lot of time to get much better spots than calling all of your money with one pair against two people and only 2 cards coming.
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