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    Default I believe pokerstars is not playing fairly

    I believe that poker stars is controlling play and favoring certain players and certain countries. While the shuffle seems random the winners are not. In each tournament I play I notice certain players are favored right from the first 5 hands and throughout the entire tournament. I also notice the players who play 24/7 are just dealt better cards. It seems to me that almost every hand is designed to move things along and maximize the bets.
    If you are an average player I would apprechiate feedback from you.
    I would play more and spend more but the software doesnt seem trustworthy. Ty

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    I play at ultimate bet (ub) and i sometimes have the same feelings as well. I feel it's just the way you play the cards, sometimes KK will come up against AA before the flop, but i mean there is still a 4.5 to 1 chance a K can come up, then when it does the kid with AA will think its rigged. Then what if the K didnt hit? then the guy with KK will think its rigged.
    i think the winners stay consistent not because the website is favoring them, which would be really ridiculous if that was the case. But just because of the amount of experience they have. im not that experienced but i love the game and bad beats are just part of it

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    "I notice certain players are favored right from the first 5 hands and throughout the entire tournament" - I call this steamrolling. If you can get a great starting stack early on and know how to use it, you will crush everyone unless you get really unlucky.

    "I also notice the players who play 24/7 are just dealt better cards" - No we aren't, we just showdown winners more often because we know to fold everything else.

    "It seems to me that almost every hand is designed to move things along" - This is the natural flow of tournaments.


    "I play at ultimate bet (ub) and i sometimes have the same feelings as well. I feel it's just the way you play the cards, sometimes KK will come up against AA before the flop, but i mean there is still a 4.5 to 1 chance a K can come up, then when it does the kid with AA will think its rigged. Then what if the K didnt hit? then the guy with KK will think its rigged. "
    But what if they guy who has AA is up against KK and the KK guys it's rigged, then an K on the flop and the AA guy says it's rigged, then a A on the turn and the KK guy says rigged, then a K on the river and the AA guys says omg rigged.

    This one hand represents this week in poker for me

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    This term "really unlucky", well I play 2 or 3 tournaments a day and I understand steamrolling perfectly. Its not just that, there are patterns I see favoring certain players. When you play 6-9-18 player sit and go's its real easy to spot the itm players early on and it stays consistant throughout they are clearly dealt better than others. I observe alot of running tourneys and it's not just happening to me.
    If you play at poker stars watch and see if this happens:

    A player from spain almost always seems to have the advantage over USA players!

    One might laugh at that comment but if you play at P stars.......watch..... and see
    Keep track and watch players who benefit from 2 or 3 out rivers. Where are they from? who loses. Just watch
    Thats just one pattern I see there are others

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    Spanish players are notorious for their aggression, which is a great trait to have in mid-late stage SNG's. No surprise that you notice they win a lot.

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    well i have been playing on most of the famous poker sites but never came across such a issue or may be i just avoided or didn't pay attention, but some of my friends have similar issues like you and most of them have moved to new and upcoming poker sites.. less sharks and big money...

    Have a great time to you for the next time.

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    i see posts like this all the time. makes absolutely no sense for a huge company like PS to jeopardize their license to print money

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    I have had enough of statements about integrity. Greed conquers all and pokerstars software does exactly was it is told to do. Actual integrity comes from experience over time. Besides everyone knows the larger the company the more likelyhood of shady practices. Look up the statement of citigal, (pkerstars independent ratiing). Read the part about "meets or exceeds industry standards". Whose standards? Where are those standards? What does user input have to do with determining the next hand? Why doesn't pokerstars post all tournament results? not hands... Just results.
    I have played there for years and recently the play has changed. The same players are catching the 2 and 3 outers throughout the whole tournament. The shuffle is random but the winners are not random they are favored.

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    Online poker is sham, everyone quit and save your money.

    BTW, just got back from a nice dinner with gf. $70 Bill? Not a problem, poker paid.

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    lol. well until you have substantial proof rather than raging tilt rants about how lucky players are. majority of the poker word will probably disagree with you

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