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    Default This was the real BAD luck.

    How can I justify my luck for the day? I was playing a tourney last night and I was getting some amazing hands, in the first 15 hands dealt to me I had J to be called as the lowest card.

    This is where the luck comes into play, calling or raising assuming that I have the best hand on a table of 10 morons the board will run dry on me every time I raise.
    Then I started limping in just to see the flop, and one of the morons would raise so much that I even folded ma Ks and As.. What a bad night…
    Hand to die for but the flop to kill for….. Was busted just out of the money pool…

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    Dont get so excited about a single tourney. You need to keep in mind that if the table is filled with morons, as you say, you need to play the opposite of their strategy. If raising 4 BBs doesnt work try raising 15 bb or just go allin preflop... you cant play good poker against bad players!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddy View Post
    Dont get so excited about a single tourney. You need to keep in mind that if the table is filled with morons, as you say, you need to play the opposite of their strategy. If raising 4 BBs doesnt work try raising 15 bb or just go allin preflop... you cant play good poker against bad players!

    you cant play good poker against bad players![/QUOTE]

    I would just like to add to this.. You can play good poker against good players, however you cant play good poker with bad players If you understand what i mean...
    I was chip leader last night 3handed in a live tourny of about 35-40 players...
    1st n 2nd place cash...
    So im feeling rather good, some donk calls my all in with K9 against my KK, flop 9 , river 9...
    doesnt always work, keep in mind i raised, he min re raised and i shuved, he then called K9o

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    Errrr what??

    You can't play good poker against bad players??

    WTF?

    That's all you can do.

    You have to play good poker. Poker strategy is a fluid thing. You need to know how to react to bad players, learn their tendencies, know your and their odds, and adjust your play style accordingly.

    The vast majority of my profits over the years was from bad players. What your saying is you would rather sit at a table with good players, but you'd shy away from a table full of fish?

    If your playing within your bankroll, you welcome the bad beats. You want them to be throwing money left and right. You want them hitting that inside draw, cause the next 9 times it wont hit and you'll take those pots.

    Saying you can't play against bad players is ignorance.

    As to the OP, it sounds like your leaky style of play led to you being forced out, not bad luck.
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

    Luck is a Residue of Design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marm View Post
    Errrr what??

    You can't play good poker against bad players??

    WTF?

    That's all you can do.

    You have to play good poker. Poker strategy is a fluid thing. You need to know how to react to bad players, learn their tendencies, know your and their odds, and adjust your play style accordingly.

    The vast majority of my profits over the years was from bad players. What your saying is you would rather sit at a table with good players, but you'd shy away from a table full of fish?

    If your playing within your bankroll, you welcome the bad beats. You want them to be throwing money left and right. You want them hitting that inside draw, cause the next 9 times it wont hit and you'll take those pots.

    Saying you can't play against bad players is ignorance.

    As to the OP, it sounds like your leaky style of play led to you being forced out, not bad luck.

    2nd this..
    What i meant was, you can play good poker against bad players...
    but you cant play good poker with bad players as in...
    imagine at a HU table.
    Phil Helmuth vs completely new player to poker...
    see what i mean? you couldnt play a skilled game between the two of you. One could (phil) but the other couldnt...

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    So im feeling rather good, some donk calls my all in with K9 against my KK, flop 9 , river 9...
    doesnt always work, keep in mind i raised, he min re raised and i shuved, he then called K9o
    Don't be results-oriented , nobody likes to lose on 92-8 spot but it happens . You want them to make bad calls , that will involve a lot of 60-40 or 50-50 spots but as long you make the push it will be profitable on the long run .
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    sigh..... /facepalm

    Everyone plays with what they think is skill.

    Some good, some bad.

    The real skill is being able to adapt to other's play style and dominate them.
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

    Luck is a Residue of Design.

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