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  1. 01-24-2010 #11
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    I found that: SNG Tournaments Return on Investment and Hourly Rate| ROI Profits Average For Sit N Goes
    well, a 6% ROI at $215 would be amazing
    4-tabling I could get my $30/hour with half that

    anyway, I think a good way to have an idea would be to play at least 500 $60 sit-and-go and check if my ROI is in the confidence interval for 7~8% with 500 instances

    if so, I move up
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  2. 01-25-2010 #12
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    You're going to pay for 100 hours of coaching?
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  3. 01-25-2010 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by 22Fish View Post
    You're going to pay for 100 hours of coaching?
    no
    my idea is to read books and use training software

    and, when starting to play, using software to analyse hands/potential mistakes

    does it seem a bad plan?
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  4. 01-25-2010 #14
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    again, these numbers are for "solid" winners ie the best there are, sngs are very much "solved" and you'll have a tough time getting to the top of the field

    you're sort of throwing words around about how you're going to learn, there's really no software to teach you, and books are 95% awful, and the 5% that are good you have to pay big money for.

    you're better off reading every 2p2 thread every day and making sure you understand all the concepts and can apply the logic in practical spots.
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  5. 01-25-2010 #15
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    I read an interesting article about becoming a pro recently, which you can find here: http://www.pokerology.com/poker-arti...-poker-player/

    It's not so much on online play, but might help your mindset.

    Personally I couldn't think of anything worse than grinding out online for a living. You'll have to decide whether you really want to change poker from a hobbie to a profession. I prefer to play small stakes and keep it as an enjoyable hobby. If I played as a pro (not good enough) I'd go insane, I'm sure.
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    Those best players are just naturals as well. Unless you feel like you have some sort of natural abilities you may want to rethink your plans.
    Lots of good rakeback options at http://www.rakeguard.com/?raf=KRE8R

    KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.
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  7. 01-26-2010 #17
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    Problem is there is no way you are going to catch the high stakes guys as far as time spent playing / lerning this game. Sure you could go pro, you'll have to do it just like everyone else and grind 100NL and 200NL or ~30$ SnGs over 8 or so tables for 1-2bb/100 or 6-7% ROI.

    Most of the SnG pros just 20+ table the low stakes for a reason.

    If you're already set on this then good luck.
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  8. 01-26-2010 #18
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    I'm also considering bots
    shouldn't I be worried with them (specially on lower stakes)?

    I don't know how AI for poker is for an "average bot", but I'm sure it's well above the average player
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    Short answer, no. Better answer, you need to do so much research if you are even considering this.
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  10. 01-27-2010 #20
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    I do not know. Poker is a game of instinct reading other players and mathematical odds. It takes a lot of skill you could read hundreds of books and take hundreds of classes but it can not explain the random probability of cards and what can vs what will occur?? understand
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