Originally Posted by mister.x

true, but seriously, I feel it's hopeless right now

I'm a computer programmer. When I program a random function, it looks randon, but in fact, it's also streaky. Computer randomness is calculated by a lot of things, like the current time, etc etc.

When I play on weekends, usually, I either break even or don't do very well. When I play monday to thursday, I get positive outcome.
I don'T think all of a sudden players get better because I lose to stupid stuff just like mentionned. I don't think all the sharks come out on Weekends and all the pappy's play monday afternnoon.

It's not that KK vs 99 is always a winner, it's because everything happens like so close to one another.

Ok I'm shutting the fuck up RIGHT NOW.
I need a hug.

Don't know what languages you program but you can create an app that will emulate PS streakyness (i.e strange suckouts).

I've bitched and moaned about this since dirt and have been slammed constantly about it. The obvious common pushback is "you suck" or other prosaic comments. I'ved played casino holden for 12+ years and never seen the stuff i see online and seeing more hands was not the variant.

Here is the variant. At a live casino, the cards are shuffled either by a dealer or a shuffling machine. Once they are shuffled, the cards have been "set" and since everyone gets 2 cards and 8 community cards (<burn>, 3 flop, <burn>, turn, <burn>,river), nothing can alter the order of the cards.

At Pokerstars and others (some to a lessor degree), their mechanism for randomness security is by randoming the cards constantly (meaning, after the cards are dealt to the players, the remaining cards are constantly being shuffled through the rnd generator.

Therefore it is Randomize, Deal, Randomize, Flop, Randomize, Turn, Randomize, River. In addition, when a bettor mulls a bet, the rnd function keeps going. By the time they call, the remaining cards could have been randomized 100's of iterations.

It pretty easy to recreate in Java or C++. NET rnd function might work also but I did not try that.

Bottom line, when the position of the remaining cards are in constant flux, you can expect this quirkyness to continue.

I saved a conversation from the sunday million where fossilman (greg raymer) also confirmed the way they randomize cards (not sure if he was privy to that or just came to the same conclusion).

Anyway, that is what I found. Take it any way you wish.

Originally Posted by willjim

At Pokerstars and others (some to a lessor degree), their mechanism for randomness security is by randoming the cards constantly (meaning, after the cards are dealt to the players, the remaining cards are constantly being shuffled through the rnd generator.

Where do people pull this shit from? It's not rocket science to give each player two cards and deal a flop turn and river randomly. Online poker sites have been audited fuck knows how many times and it's always been confirmed random.

How exactly did you become privy to this top secret information anyway?

Originally Posted by willjim

Because it is actually not top secret. They know its harder to hit a moving target. If you dig on PS, they actually describe it somewhat. I was just trying to reproduce the weird ubiquitous suckouts.

I play HU now sng, dropped for a while the 6 handed sng's and 9 handed that I used to play.

It's even more obvious the streakyness "randomness" when you play HU.
My last 1000 hands, I'm sure there is something odd.

I see so many similarities or patterns when I play. For example, a few hands ago, I sucked out to split pot to a full house (we had the same pair, he had better kicker but turn and river gave us both a full house)

A few hands later, the other person sucked out to a full house on me, same scenario (but different opponent). You see patterns like that. Streaky patterns. I know people will say "so what", but these kinds of patterns, you can see quite often. I get dealt pocket 7's 4 times in one game, 2 times twice in a row. In another game, I know it sounds silly, but I got dealt pocket kings twice in row, and I did the same mouse movement between the deal. Did not think about at first, but a few hands later, I repeated the movement, got dealt pocket Q's. Pure luck I guess, cuz I tried it again and did not get good cards, but makes you wonder...