Actually, it was idle until yesterday, it is not a new thread. What started this was I was silly enough to reply to the original poster (mister.x if you have java runtime on your machine I can send you the test app) that I just programmatically tested what pokerstars says they are doing and I get quirky suckouts that skew from tolerance.
Is that rigging? No. But it explains what everyone complains about and the reason I moved to FT where i'm not grindin just to stay even.
Now if you check the thread. The only people who even mention "rigged" are the slammers. I guess thats more fun than continuing to play in their .05/.10 no limit games for big time dollars.
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Thread: The pokerstars randomness
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07-30-2007 #31Banned
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07-30-2007 #32
This thread is approx. 15days old...which means that this subject keeps popping up...if you stopped playing at PS because you believe that it's not right, then good for you...doesn't change the fact that anybody who says that any poker site is rigged is, obviously, not in his right mind. It's one thing to do it and stop playing at that site, it's another to post it, then post another HH, then another, then another...
I started on PS at .05/.10 LHE and built a BR of over $150 before I started Bonus Whoring and moved to different sites. Not because I didn't like PS, but because I wanted bonuses...
I'm currently still playing there after a more then 1 year break and from what I've seen, the players (or the site) hasn't changed much...just out of curiousity, how many hands have you run that lead you to believe that it "skew from tolerance"? I'd like more information.
I will say that if you have proof that PS is rigged, (which your post alludes to) then I'll stop playing there...if not, then take your crying ass to FT and I'll find you when I start bonus whoring again and take your money as well
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07-30-2007 #34Banned
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07-30-2007 #35
i obviously do have something to say - you're fucking idiot. you come here throwing shitty technical terms around making allegations that one of, if not the largest online poker site isn't random, despite how many thousands of times it has been proved to be.
you haven't provided one shred of evidence to support your spew, apart from some tripe about writing some lame java app that can apparently recreate suckouts, which would obviously be over a negligible sample size.
answer something simple then you fucking prodigy - how is it in stars best interest to have a dodgy dealing system? if there are constant "suckouts" they'd get a bad rep, less players, less rake.
post up some of your magnificent source code if you want me to flaw that too.
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Hmm, interesting response, and yet, i notice it lacks substance...With some of the claims you've made, I would think you would want to back them with some interesting stats about how you ran 100M hands through the same randomizer that PS uses and came up with a serious problem with the site.
And are the mods dead around here...is this crap normal around here now?Trons
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07-30-2007 #38
If stars is rigged I don't give a shit b/c it's obviously rigged in my favor
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07-30-2007 #39Banned
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07-31-2007 #40
to all the idiots who feel poker is rigged:
why does everyone's poker tracker stats debunk your accusation?
why the eff would multi million/billion dollar industry jeopardize its future?
rigged then players leave
rigged then ppl sue them
rigged then stocks fall
You ass holes realize that the rake is capped? meaning it dosnt matter to them if the pot is 200bb or 900bb, they make the same.
You know what is rigged? Your poker skill. Thats why every fucking losing player blames it on poker being rigged. Yet, for some magical reason, wining players dont constantly bitch about poker being rigged. And if they are, they are leveling.
I mean you guys have no evidence.
All you have is conspiracy theories. You all think that every site is rigged. Every time someone showdowns a flush, its rigged. Yet, you have no statistical evidence. Infact all the poker traccker evidence suggests that poker online is played exactly how the maths suggest, yet you ppl seem to ignore this.
Now, let me tell you something else.
Say one day your wet dream becomes a reality, and anurag dickshit says:
"you know what? IMa put my billion dollar business in jeopardy b/c I want to make more money. No, I wont add more tournaments, nor will I raise the rake. Hell, I wont use any of the legit options I have for increasing my revenue. Instead, I'll impliment a shady ploy, that will rig the cards. Yes! Now I will get more action, and get more money, LDO!"
well if this did happen, then the playing feild would be just as even. The only thing that would happen would be that say instead of paying a 5% rake, youd be paying 6 or 7%. (UB upped their rake a few months ago you idiots, yet you dont care about taht). It would be exactly the same as that. A raise in rake.
But you didiots for some reason think its only rigged vs you. Everyoe gets lucky vs you. HOlly fuckin shit will you pause and think about what you are saying? How is it possible that ever donky claims that everyone hits cards vs him? If its rigged vs you, its rigged vs me. Meaning it is fair. I dont have an edge over you.. (oh wait I do, I am not an idiot who thinks online poker is basically a huge scam, and instead of learning, I just blame my donkie strategy on the site).
Well frankley I hope you guys keep crying about this. You ppl are like the guy from the movie The Conversation. You guys are paranoid fools, who are out of touch w/ reality. Show my a sample of PT stats that proves me wrong. I'll take as low as 50k hands.I get more ass than a toilet seat. All shapes/colors/sizes.

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