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  1. 08-02-2007 #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by heidi View Post
    Not sure if this helps, but according to a paper released a long time ago in some science journal, computers can't actually generate "truly" random numbers (and hence cards).

    They can only simulate "randomness", which is close enough in practical terms. And there are different algorithms created by different people to simulate the randomness - like different brands of products but essentially with the same end effect.

    So it's probably just Pokerstars using one particular "randomness-simulator/rnd generator" that might give the streakiness feeling.

    I feel like such a nerd now. *sigh*
    Umm... there is no such thing as true randomness in anything. The location of atomic & subatomic particles in the sun isn't random, there are just so many unknown variables that it's impossible to predict. Same when a person manually shuffles... not random, just unpredictable for a decent shuffler. It's referred to as causality
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  2. 08-02-2007 #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinguaq View Post
    Umm... there is no such thing as true randomness in anything. The location of atomic & subatomic atoms in the sun isn't random, there are just so many unknown variables that it's impossible to predict. Same when a person manually shuffles... not random, just unpredictable for a decent shuffler.
    Random means the data satisfies certain statistical requirements.

    Unpredictable+random = truely random as opposed to pseudo-random.
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  3. 08-02-2007 #93
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    How did they cracked pacific poker algorithm then ?
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  4. 08-02-2007 #94
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    old UB webpage discussed its RNG.

    It said it didnt use computers, instead it used some type of sound wave system.
    They sai dthe reason for thsi was that computer generated ones were not random, but their system was random.

    On the new webpage it dosnt discuss the RNG, at leats I cant find it.
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  5. 08-02-2007 #95
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    Some of you guys take this shit way to seriously.
    Lots of good rakeback options at http://www.rakeguard.com/?raf=KRE8R

    KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.
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  6. 08-02-2007 #96
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    now way man the online pokah is rigged.
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  7. 07-21-2010 #97
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    Default Observed patterns in pokerstars?

    I've noticed that if one of your pocket cards matches the middle-ranked card in the flop, then you won't get much else, and you might as well fold.

    Try it for yourself....Trust me...I'm an ENTP (Myer-Briggs)
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  8. 07-22-2010 #98
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    WELL THEN THIS GUY MUST BE ON A MEGA MEGA STREAK

    Transcript for your last 1 games requested by preech07 (preech123@msn.com)

    *********** # 1 **************
    PokerStars Game #47118290057: Tournament #322010484, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2010/07/22 19:03:07 WET [2010/07/22 14:03:07 ET]
    Table '322010484 314' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: swit it (2000 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
    Seat 2: Kwantum (1770 in chips)
    Seat 3: OtreborAvlis (2000 in chips)
    Seat 4: TurboThug (2000 in chips)
    Seat 5: neoli (1940 in chips)
    Seat 6: preech07 (4210 in chips)
    Seat 7: snafu8235 (1615 in chips)
    Seat 8: AllcashGTA (2560 in chips)
    Seat 9: tolispapaio (2060 in chips)
    Kwantum: posts small blind 25
    OtreborAvlis: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to preech07 [9c 9s]
    TurboThug: raises 250 to 300
    neoli: folds
    preech07: calls 300
    snafu8235: folds
    AllcashGTA: folds
    tolispapaio: folds
    Kwantum: folds
    OtreborAvlis: raises 1700 to 2000 and is all-in
    TurboThug: calls 1700 and is all-in
    preech07: calls 1700
    *** FLOP *** [8s Qs Ac]
    *** TURN *** [8s Qs Ac] [Th]
    *** RIVER *** [8s Qs Ac Th] [9h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    OtreborAvlis: shows [7s Jh] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
    TurboThug: shows [Ad Td] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
    preech07: shows [9c 9s] (three of a kind, Nines)
    OtreborAvlis collected 6025 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 6025 | Rake 0
    Board [8s Qs Ac Th 9h]
    Seat 2: Kwantum (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: OtreborAvlis (big blind) showed [7s Jh] and won (6025) with a straight, Eight to Queen
    Seat 4: TurboThug showed [Ad Td] and lost with two pair, Aces and Tens
    Seat 5: neoli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: preech07 showed [9c 9s] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
    Seat 7: snafu8235 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: AllcashGTA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: tolispapaio (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


    AND THEN I GOT HIM BACK BUT LOOK AT THE CALL



    Transcript for your last 1 games requested by preech07 (preech123@msn.com)

    *********** # 1 **************
    PokerStars Game #47118447257: Tournament #322010484, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2010/07/22 19:06:32 WET [2010/07/22 14:06:32 ET]
    Table '322010484 314' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: swit it (1850 in chips)
    Seat 2: Kwantum (1745 in chips)
    Seat 3: OtreborAvlis (5925 in chips)
    Seat 4: Alfsmate (1900 in chips)
    Seat 5: neoli (1890 in chips)
    Seat 6: preech07 (2210 in chips)
    Seat 7: snafu8235 (1615 in chips)
    Seat 8: AllcashGTA (2510 in chips)
    Seat 9: tolispapaio (2510 in chips)
    neoli: posts small blind 25
    preech07: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to preech07 [Ac As]
    snafu8235: folds
    AllcashGTA: folds
    tolispapaio: calls 50
    swit it: folds
    Kwantum: calls 50
    OtreborAvlis: raises 550 to 600
    Alfsmate: folds
    neoli: folds
    preech07: raises 1610 to 2210 and is all-in
    tolispapaio: folds
    Kwantum: folds
    OtreborAvlis: calls 1610
    *** FLOP *** [Ah Jc 7h]
    *** TURN *** [Ah Jc 7h] [9d]
    *** RIVER *** [Ah Jc 7h 9d] [Qs]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    preech07: shows [Ac As] (three of a kind, Aces)
    OtreborAvlis: shows [5c 3c] (high card Ace)
    preech07 collected 4545 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4545 | Rake 0
    Board [Ah Jc 7h 9d Qs]
    Seat 1: swit it folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Kwantum folded before Flop
    Seat 3: OtreborAvlis showed [5c 3c] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 4: Alfsmate (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: neoli (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: preech07 (big blind) showed [Ac As] and won (4545) with three of a kind, Aces
    Seat 7: snafu8235 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: AllcashGTA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: tolispapaio folded before Flop


    AND THEN THE LITTLE PRICK GETS LUCKY YET AGAIN WITH CRAP



    Transcript for your last 1 games requested by preech07 (preech123@msn.com)

    *********** # 1 **************
    PokerStars Game #47118526210: Tournament #322010484, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (30/60) - 2010/07/22 19:08:13 WET [2010/07/22 14:08:13 ET]
    Table '322010484 314' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: swit it (1850 in chips)
    Seat 2: Kwantum (1695 in chips)
    Seat 3: OtreborAvlis (6250 in chips)
    Seat 4: Alfsmate (1900 in chips)
    Seat 5: neoli (1865 in chips)
    Seat 6: preech07 (4520 in chips)
    Seat 7: snafu8235 (1565 in chips)
    Seat 8: AllcashGTA (2510 in chips)
    Seat 9: manolo55 (2000 in chips)
    snafu8235: posts small blind 30
    AllcashGTA: posts big blind 60
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to preech07 [Jc Ah]
    manolo55: folds
    swit it: calls 60
    Kwantum: folds
    OtreborAvlis: raises 540 to 600
    Alfsmate: folds
    neoli: folds
    preech07: raises 3920 to 4520 and is all-in
    snafu8235: folds
    AllcashGTA: folds
    swit it: calls 1790 and is all-in
    OtreborAvlis: calls 3920
    *** FLOP *** [Td 5s 4c]
    *** TURN *** [Td 5s 4c] [JavaScript]
    *** RIVER *** [Td 5s 4c JavaScript] [9d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    OtreborAvlis: shows [Ts Jh] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
    preech07: shows [Jc Ah] (a pair of Jacks)
    OtreborAvlis collected 5340 from side pot
    swit it: shows [4s Ac] (a pair of Fours)
    OtreborAvlis collected 5640 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 10980 Main pot 5640. Side pot 5340. | Rake 0
    Board [Td 5s 4c JavaScript 9d]
    Seat 1: swit it showed [4s Ac] and lost with a pair of Fours
    Seat 2: Kwantum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: OtreborAvlis showed [Ts Jh] and won (10980) with two pair, Jacks and Tens
    Seat 4: Alfsmate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: neoli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: preech07 (button) showed [Jc Ah] and lost with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 7: snafu8235 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: AllcashGTA (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: manolo55 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    AND AFTER THAT BELIEVE IT OR NOT HE WON 2 ALL IN RACES THE 2 HANDS STRAIGHT AFTER WITH K 5 AGAINST A K AND THEN J 7 AGAIN AGAINST K 10 AND HITS A STRAIGHT.


    HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PLAY POKER AGAINST THESE KIND OF PLAYERS SERIOUSLY
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  9. 07-23-2010 #99
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    yo preech07, you owe money to members on another forum, why did you scam all those members and when are you going to pay the money back, we are all waiting, its been long enough now preech07
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  10. 07-23-2010 #100
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    There is a quote that goes
    " sometimes Lady Luck sits on your shoulder, sometimes she sits on your lap, but sometimes she sits across the room flipping you the finger!"
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