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05-01-2007, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KRE8R
I am sorry will, my PT stats prove this wrong. I have had sessions of 500 hands where I didnt even pick up a pocket pair. To be honest at Stars (the only site I play right now) I have had AK waaaaaay less than statistics say I should have. The same for AA and KK. Sorry man, your statistics alone dont show anything.
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Ahh, but you are obv a winning player, if not for the riggedness. Stars can sense if you are a good player or a bad player, and then adjusts the hand you get in order to compensate for the skill level.
If you were a bad player, Stars would apparently grant you great flops no matter what crap you're holding.
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05-01-2007, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wastrel
Ahh, but you are obv a winning player, if not for the riggedness. Stars can sense if you are a good player or a bad player, and then adjusts the hand you get in order to compensate for the skill level.
If you were a bad player, Stars would apparently grant you great flops no matter what crap you're holding.
SFobv.
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SHIT. Blows my whole theory out of the water...
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05-02-2007, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by KRE8R
SHIT. Blows my whole theory out of the water...
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And it also explains why Willsparrows gets such a good run of hands..... 
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05-02-2007, 06:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KRE8R
I am sorry will, my PT stats prove this wrong. I have had sessions of 500 hands where I didnt even pick up a pocket pair. To be honest at Stars (the only site I play right now) I have had AK waaaaaay less than statistics say I should have. The same for AA and KK. Sorry man, your statistics alone dont show anything.
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yeah i can argue all day about the hands i was dealt in 30mins but right now i don't have the stats to post so i gotta get poker tracker and try it again. is your s a free version or is it free? if not ill just go download it somehwere
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05-02-2007, 07:28 AM
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Stu Ungar
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Originally Posted by willsparrow
yeah i can argue all day about the hands i was dealt in 30mins but right now i don't have the stats to post so i gotta get poker tracker and try it again. is your s a free version or is it free? if not ill just go download it somehwere
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It's bundled with various signup deals afair. Otherwise no, it's not free.
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05-02-2007, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by wastrel
Ahh, but you are obv a winning player, if not for the riggedness. Stars can sense if you are a good player or a bad player, and then adjusts the hand you get in order to compensate for the skill level.
If you were a bad player, Stars would apparently grant you great flops no matter what crap you're holding.
SFobv.
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Funny, cause I know you are just goofing. As a software developer I can readily say you are now giving them a little too much credit. They obviously don't just randomize 1 thru 52 and then pop them off the stack, but I really doubt if they can use any AI logic to adjust accordingly (that would be a little too resource intensive). I'm going to try and post a hypothetical algorithm which seems to be giving me similar results. It's not totally random (1 thru 52 stack) and it does not favor any player, but it does create setups similar to what I am seeing.
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05-02-2007, 09:08 AM
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Mike McDermott
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If the SN you sent me was correct then I can confirm he is a winning player
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05-02-2007, 09:14 AM
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You still haven't answered my question of why would they rig the sng's?
What exactly do they gain from setting it up?
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05-02-2007, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by davidab157
You still haven't answered my question of why would they rig the sng's?
What exactly do they gain from setting it up?
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The algorithim increases the rake in the cash games obviously. In the Sit'n'gos, its speeds up the play, thus more game turnover. If they had 2 separate algorithims, people would really notice that.
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05-02-2007, 09:27 AM
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River Rat
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^^^^^^ - Post of the year so far!!!!
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