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05-01-2007, 08:44 AM
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No, I don't muck AA's or I would'nt know the percentage. If you play on poker stars and want to play, let me know. That goes for any of you.
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05-01-2007, 09:19 AM
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It is apparent by the replys you are all accomplished winners online. I thought posting the weird patterns on PS could help some players (it's just an additional variance of the play). I know why they do it and although it's not technically rigging the game, it is not true card randomization and will never be in line with probability (even if they claim it so).
Therefore i will not bother pursuing this. If you think you can beat me, i'm on PS most days. Come get me
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05-01-2007, 09:22 AM
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Nice reply. You obviously live in your parents basement
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05-01-2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by willjim
It is apparent by the replys you are all accomplished winners online. I thought posting the weird patterns on PS could help some players (it's just an additional variance of the play). I know why they do it and although it's not technically rigging the game, it is not true card randomization and will never be in line with probability (even if they claim it so).
Therefore i will not bother pursuing this. If you think you can beat me, i'm on PS most days. Come get me
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If you can prove it, great, do it. We hear this stuff all the time (you should meet willsparrow, if you aren't actually him with a different name  , you'd get along like best buds) about how it's rigged etc. but if you prove it we might listen.
As for challenging us, play in the PFO tourney tonight, it's in the Online discussion section with the info and passwords.
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05-01-2007, 11:21 AM
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Mike McDermott
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Originally Posted by willjim
If you think you can beat me, i'm on PS most days. Come get me
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Lol, anybody this insistent on sites being rigged sucks ass at poker!
Sure lots of people, myself included joke about poker being rigged but that's the difference, we're joking!
Whats your PS name I wanna sharkscope you?
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05-01-2007, 01:00 PM
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lol you dont need to prove it, just go to the bad beat section of this site. 90% of it is pokerstars. Mostly because there are more people but just look at the hands that play out.
oh did i mention, why don't they do rake back? oh they want 5 guys all in with hands like AA,KK,QQ,JJ and boom theres huge rake on the pot. there are like 20 main posters on this site and 10/20 are losing poker players. others are ahead by a few hundred. so time spent vs money earned = your still a losing player.
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05-01-2007, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jharding666
Lol, anybody this insistent on sites being rigged sucks ass at poker!
Sure lots of people, myself included joke about poker being rigged but that's the difference, we're joking!
Whats your PS name I wanna sharkscope you?
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try sharkscoping fossilman 1st. I'm sure you consider Greg Raymer a bad player too
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05-01-2007, 01:16 PM
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also these programs that run the site aren't made by the goverment or something, these programs were built by the people who run the sites. lets see here. if i offer no rake back then i get tons more profit, well now... if i change the odds of hands being delt then there is a more possibility that people will throw more money into that pot and that ='s more money for us. even if its 2 cents more. over thousands of tables it starts to add up.
I don't know and you don't know. just because its a large gambling company doesn't mean they won't try and get every penny out of you. You think gambling companies are the most honest people? haha they are probably on the same level as cigarette for greed in earning profit.
people just don't like to realize that there is a possibility that you are getting the wrong odds because they don't think it can happen. there are no rules for online gambling, there is no required payout % for every dollar you put in.
rigged doesn't have to mean you lose every time, it can mean that when ever you get delt jacks, someone gets delt aces for example. there not stupid enough to mess around with the winning % but they can control the odds of hands being dealt.
i'll give anyone here a challange. go sit in a live game for an hour and see how many times you pick up AK, now depending on how fast your table runs but the chances of getting AK Is about 1.2% so in an hours time you might get it maybe 1-3 times, maybe more if your lucky. now go sit in an online room and you get AK dealt to you every 10-20 hands maybe less. In fact i think ill hop back on PS and record how many times i pick up a premium hand. i won't post wither i lost or not, just post how many times i pick up a premium hand and compare it to basic odds.
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05-01-2007, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by willjim
try sharkscoping fossilman 1st. I'm sure you consider Greg Raymer a bad player too
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some things dont help his stats....
Raymer Pokerstars Account Hacked
and as for your quest, im a MASSIVE losing player online so id love to see the results of ur test.
dont listen to all these guys who are only fooling themselves that they're winning players.....you go ahead and do whatever it was that u were gonna do to prove once and for all that Stars is rigged. just make sure u post the results here so i can see them too.
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05-01-2007, 01:24 PM
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Stu Ungar
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Originally Posted by willjim
No, I don't muck AA's or I would'nt know the percentage. If you play on poker stars and want to play, let me know. That goes for any of you.
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what's ur sceen name
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