Seat 1: PAminer (8,019)
Seat 2: michael2980 (8,930)
Seat 3: ScoopsOfStacks (27,976)
Seat 4: EagleEye300 (24,382)
Seat 5: DFD13 (48,923)
Seat 6: foldurcall (11,995)
Seat 7: TAMASED60 (13,279)
Seat 8: ava86tar (42,912)
Seat 9: OSCAR EL CANO (16,998)
PAminer antes 100
michael2980 antes 100
ScoopsOfStacks antes 100
EagleEye300 antes 100
DFD13 antes 100
foldurcall antes 100
TAMASED60 antes 100
ava86tar antes 100
OSCAR EL CANO antes 100
michael2980 posts the small blind of 400
ScoopsOfStacks posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ScoopsOfStacks [9c 9d]
EagleEye300 folds
DFD13 folds
foldurcall folds
TAMASED60 folds
ava86tar raises to 2,400
OSCAR EL CANO folds
PAminer folds
michael2980 folds
ScoopsOfStacks calls 1,600
*** FLOP *** [3c 5c JavaScript]
ScoopsOfStacks checks
ava86tar bets 3,200
ScoopsOfStacks raises to 8,000
ava86tar calls 4,800
*** TURN *** [3c 5c JavaScript] [2c]
ScoopsOfStacks bets 17,476, and is all in
ava86tar calls 17,476
ScoopsOfStacks shows [9c 9d]
ava86tar shows [4d 5s]
*** RIVER *** [3c 5c JavaScript 2c] [As]
ScoopsOfStacks shows a pair of Nines
ava86tar shows a straight, Five high
ava86tar wins the pot (57,052) with a straight, Five high
ScoopsOfStacks is feeling confused
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 57,052 | Rake 0
Board: [3c 5c JavaScript 2c As]
Seat 1: PAminer (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: michael2980 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: ScoopsOfStacks (big blind) showed [9c 9d] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 4: EagleEye300 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: DFD13 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: foldurcall folded before the Flop
Seat 7: TAMASED60 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: ava86tar showed [4d 5s] and won (57,052) with a straight, Five high
Seat 9: OSCAR EL CANO folded before the Flop

Why would anyone ever make this play? This was in a rush tournament, i just got into the money and this guy makes this play, he had a ton of chips too. This is just the last tournament i played. I keep coming in situations where people bet out of position with terrible hands and winning! I grind and grind and do decent in every tournament i play! EVERY TOURNAMENT I PLAY! I have probably played over 400 tournaments in the last month. I have probably been in about 3 or 4 where i lost my first all in pot out of these 400. 90% of the time, i lose my chips when the blinds go up. You would think this is because variance is higher with lager pots. But after a while you start to get this feeling every time you are in a big pot with another big stack.

Ok well, i think full tilt is rigged in more ways than one.


Full tilt has added software to keep fish losing and winning players winning. Full tilt keeps bad mannered,obnoxious players from winning(i think this because when i say negative things towards other players i tent to lose alot more afterwards).
Full tilt always gives good luck to new accounts within the first 1-2 buy ins. if you make a new account they will delete it because it violates TC's.
Full tilt can add tags to your account to make certain scenarios happen more to expose your leaks.
Full tilt has employees that like to fuck with people that they think are deserving. Could anyone do anything about it?(This one happens less often)
Full tilt has preset boards that are not random, but the majority of the hands are random. These boards usually show up late in a tourny, especially if you make a bad play and suckout earlier in the tournament.
Full tilt notices when you buy in to a tourny at a disadvantage, full tilt knows when you put your money into the pot

For all you people that cant understand my concept, its pretty simple. Full tilt can categorize you and give you the right compilation of cards to keep you coming back for more and more losing, or winning if they decide to put you in the winners list.

Please if you read this, do not post this saying "you need to learn how to play blah blah blah", because i consider this every day, i analyze the pots i lose every time i lose them. I find wrong plays by myself, but they are rare and do not even come close to the amount of bad plays i play against. I am not one of those players who gets AA and three bets when the blinds are 15/30 and then calls an all in on the flop only to see the opponents better hand. I always make cost effective moves, and if i make bad moves.. they are only somewhat bad, not detrimental! But when other players play bad vs me i can just tell im getting screwed somehow. In fact it sometimes feels like the only way i win any money at all is to play like shit! I have made over 20 full tilt accounts, they are all deleted but one at this time. But with every account i noticed these same patterns. Winning about 10-20 times my initial buy in which is like 50 bucks. Then getting cold deck after cold deck untill i have no money. Then any deposits i put on just go so fast, i feel like im paying an hourly rate to click the fold button.

On this account that i play now, i used to play poker often for a while then quit for like 5 months. On my first buyin coming back from the break i won a 10 dollar super stack for 3200 dollars. Since then i have been playing good poker and low buy ins. I havent won more then 100 dollars all together since then. Thats pretty bad considering i have played 2k since that win already. When i played the 10 dollar super stack, i was playing decent for the most part. But there were a few plays that i made that were TERRABLE. but i got payed from them. I did not deserve the win.

The hand at the top of the screen was just standard for me, really. Im not posting it cause i think it is the worst beat in my career, cause it really doesnt come close. I reinstalled my FT and my hand history's went away wit it! Didnt see that coming.

If i played this hand wrong please explain how! I could have raised preflop maybe? Sometimes i think maybe i just suck at poker, but i cant find any hand historys to support this theory. Im always making correct plays. And when i make a "bad play" its useually me trying to steal a pot where the opponent should not have called anyways but still did and won. I have been playing online poker for a really really really long time now, Im really sick of not making any money.

I literally feel like people are trying to give all their money to me but somehow they still win!

The way i approach NL holdem is to always try to keep the pot the perfect size for maximum risk vs reward on turn and river. When i bluff, i always have outs, If im planning on moving all in, the pot will be the perfect size before i do so! If i am drawing, i will make sure the pot is the perfect size when/if i do hit for maximum reward. But what does one do when the opponent constantly makes losing bets and is constantly creating unnecessarily large pots but somehow busting you out. People will have 10k in chips, blinds are 100/200,they on the button with like QJ offsuit six betting into a huge chipstack! And i cant beat these players? what is going on! How can someone come into a pot with 45 for no fucking reason? These kind of late game suckouts cost me so much money i cant even explain my frustrations. I alter my play so slightly and change small things to try and fix these "leaks" which are actually just bad beats but i just cant figure out what to do. I understand variance, but how do you explain the feeling of KNOWING you are going to lose? I can register for any tournament i want on full tilt, play any way i want to. One thing is for certain. I will never get any more money from tilt, whether i am really as bad as my roi concludes or its rigged. How bad at poker can someone really get though, bad enough to lose 2k strait on 1-20 dollar tournaments without winning more then 100 dollars combined? Keep in mind, i play all types of tournaments near perfectly(imo) and lots of headsups. somehow i cant win those anymore either. I just dont understand how i can constantly play good and patiently but not be rewarded ever! And by the way i do understand the fact that only 9% of poker players are winning players. And i do understand that a 10% ROI per hr is amazing for a poker player to average. I do not expect to win 3200 dollars every day. I expect to at least break even however, especially considering the donks i play against. I can say with complete confidence that i am better then 90% of the online players that i compete against. Basically i have played so much poker the only way to beat me is to make incorrect plays. Now its to the point i can subliminally sense when i am going to lose a pot with the best hand, its actually not subliminal, its because the suckouts always happen at the same times, the important ones, the ones that make or break my whole tournament. The ones where if i would have won the pot like i should have i would be holding 1/4 of the tournament chips with 20 people left. The ones where im either making big profits or getting next to nothing if i lose. The ones where the "variance" actually matters!


Please before you post your know it all bullshit about how you make money online and that your play is superior to mine, please feel free to ask me any questions about basic poker knowledge. feel free to challenge me to a bo100 1$ HU NL. We can go over my the hands we play. I can guarantee you i have little to no leaks in my poker game! If the cards went the way the odds say they would, i would probably have the 8k ive lost over the years back, maybe some more too.


I should be playing real poker by now, not this 1$ shit. But that is what i have been reduced to because i can not afford the 5k per day full tilt would suck from me if i was playing even 10$ buy ins.

lol

Originally Posted by KnightofNarg

Secondly, you seem to be a tournament style player. While that's fine if you enjoy it, but realize that tournament play is way high variance. It may take tens of thousands of tournaments to begin to work out variance, and show how good or bad a player of you are. I see a lot of solid and winning players playing tournaments all the time, and consistently getting knocked out by a complete retard, and getting all angry about it.
That's just the way tournaments are, grind for hours and hours to just to try to make it to the bubble and mincash, and hours more for a small chance to make the final table. Not really what I call fun or profitable, but I used to do it a lot (freerolls mostly) and I really began to hate it.
I switched to cash and got crushed, cash is a lot more difficult in many ways, while tournament play just seems to be an extreme test of patience. Keep that in mind.

I have decided to not play online poker anymore, i feel like the house makes to much money for one. Its not worth the investment it takes to win small amounts of money. Like you said it is high variance in tournaments. I dont really know how to explain my luck on online poker but its bad enough to give me doubts about the security of the game. There are to many ways for it to be rigged to be able to prove any of them if they are so, even if there is a one in 100 chance of the game being rigged it is still not worth the gamble in my opinion. I don't like the idea that the house usually makes more off a winning player than the player itself,while the player is funding the site. Someone needs to open a new poker website with super low rake, or a site that over time a players rake will decrease eventually to 0. Greedy internet bastards.