That's what I was implying. I don't get why any hands would be not included regardless of when you folded them.

Originally Posted by profnabeshin

I don't think he gets it either... the folded hands should be counted to give an accurate account for how many times a pocket pair would flop a set.

Mathematically speaking, the folded hands should indeed be counted. Folding them does not change the cards on the flop. OP is an idiot.

Originally Posted by LetsPlayPoker

Mathematically speaking, the folded hands should indeed be counted. Folding them does not change the cards on the flop. OP is an idiot.

Originally Posted by ItisWhatItis

About four or five days ago I posted a new thread outlining the cards that I have been dealt over the past 100,000+ hands. The results defied all common sense and made a mockery of odds; i.e. 40% more 2/7's dealt than A/K's and a whole lot more. Some of the things I didn't mention were the odds of getting a pair on the flop are about one in three. Over the past 100,000 hands my results have been 12%. The odds of getting a set on the flop when dealt a pair about one in eight. My results, about 2.5%. In every category the results have been the same. As I indicated in the earlier posting I have shown these results to (a) a professor of statistics and (b) a professor in computer programming at the University of California where I live. Both of these people independently of one another suggested that the results were so compelling in indicating that there is fraud going on that anyone who knowingly continues to play on these sites is a fool.

Notwithstanding all of the above, I was interested in what others have experienced on these sites and for a day or two after posting the thread checked back and read these posts. Yesterday, when I went to check the posting, I discovered that it was marked "moved". There was no indication of where it was "moved" to; just moved. Today the thread appears to be gone.

Gentlemen (and ladies if there are any reading this), I am not paranoid, I am merely stating facts. I have the spreadsheet showing my results and will be more than happy to share it with anyone; but an objective person viewing the above can only draw one conclusion. I am done playing on line poker until someone can offer a rational explanation both to the results of the 100,000 hands and why suddenly and without explanation, my earlier thread was "moved". Good luck to all of you. I will continue to monitor this site to see if (a) this thread disappears also and (b) if any of you would like to respond to this thread.

The cards dealt are 100% random. Everyone else that plays against you on the tables are people just like you.. not part of the pokerstars crew out to get you. If you were to sit at a table playing against 8 of your buddies... the outcome would be the same. Now tell me, why would pokerstars favor any of your friends over you? In every hand, theres a winner, and a loser. Im sure you've made some bad beats on people and they thought the same thing.. 'wow this is rigged'. Fact of the matter is.. its completely random. PStars would get nothing out of rigging the game and making another complete stranger win while facing you.

PokerStars is the biggest site out there, why would they cheat??

suppose i “knew of” or “perviously worked for” a poker site that hired people to “prop” at there offices and gave these “prop Players” hundreds of dollars in credits every session they logged in for to play against other paying customers every day… is this illegal? as in the long run these players that are putting in there hard earned money will eventually loose to these “props” or the rake will eventually get them…. is seems like they are funding the props to slowly but surly screw there customers out of there money… please reply!