Okay; this is not the whining of someone who has sufferfed too many bad beats or has just parachuted in. I have been playing on line for almost 2 years and from the beginning I intuitively suspected there was something wrong. So I started keeping a spreadsheet of every hand dealt to me and have now accumulated over 110,000 hands; enough so that there is statistical meaning to the results. I will be glad to email the spreadsheet to anyone wishing to see a copy.

We all know that getting gealt good cards is no guarantee of winning. We have all lost hands with a/a and won with 2/7. However, there is no doubt that overall getting dealt good hands is probably more advantageous than getting dealt bad hands.

After over 100,000 hands, dealt from 1 of the major online sites, here are some of the results:

A/K 1161 hands
A/Q 1080 hands
A/J 1143 Hands

7/4 1424
7/3 1506
7/2 1504

There is over a 20% differential between the "good" hands and the "bad" hands. This is statistically impossible if the dealing was truly random. The rest of the results are just as alarming.

I am not interested in smart mouth replies. I believe this matter needs to be addressed seriously. If you will excuse the pun, the stakes are too high.

No offense meant, but this is getting borderline into the conspiracy corner. Not to say this thread has no value or merit.

As long as we keep the focus gathering and studying data, and seeing how long it takes for randomness to smooth itself over I will support this thread, as this information really interests me (I'm a math nerd). I just don't want conspiracy nuts all over the place going "EVERYTHING IS RIGGED". We should routinely and seriously evaluate data for our own protection, yes?

While I don't think it's impossible to be dealt hands with such a difference between them, I think it's highly unlikely. Maybe some others can post their info so we can see just how unlikely?

Sample Size 115k hands
AK - 1392
AQ - 1392
AJ - 1441
74 - 1349
73 - 1375
72 - 1361

I've been playing for quite a long time, and while I've never kept a log of my hands, it seems to me that I get dealt 2/2 the same amount of times as A/A.

A lot of us use poker hand trackers, and have easy access to this info, so we never need to physically track it.

Oh I know, I'm just saying I've never used one.

56,000 hands: I suppose I'm slightly unlucky... must be rigged

AK- 654
AQ- 623
AJ- 635

74- 666
73- 688
72- 681

Originally Posted by ImNotSpecial

is the expected rate of getting any pair the same as AA ???
if so,, why do i keep getting 5's 6's ad 7's that are useless lol

Yes, the probability of getting A/A is the same as getting K/K, Q/Q, J/Q, 10/10, etc. People just tend to think A/A is more common because that's what they see the most in the game. People don't tend to play 2/2, so people don't usually see it.

I want 2 show everone a sample tournament of hands:

29; 89;67; 36; 4Q;9K; 74;6J;410;92; 27; 43; 85; J5; 67; 36; 2J; 4Q; A5; 8A; 58; 2Q; J3; 410; 42; K6; A3; 49;105; 53; 69; 84; 22; Q7; 2J 109; 2J; 33; QJ; 73; 85; AK; 38.

So what you say, 1 tournament means nothing; but those hands are absolutely representative of virtually every tournament I have entered.

In reviewing my spreadsheet I have found that I was dealt 40% more 2/3's than A/K's after more than 100,000 hands. This is not possible. I have discussed this situation with both statisticians and computer programers and what I have found out is that a random dealing of cards cannot give you that much of a disparity after 100,000 samples and that the computer program that deals the cards can be programmed so that it deals certain cards to certain individuals.

You cannot hide from facts. I love the game of poker and I am sick to learn that probably all the sites are playing stupid games; especially since they can all make a ton of money legitimately. Unless someone out there on this site can come up with some answer to this, I would have to conclude, as the statistician from my local university concluded: We are being conned.