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  1. 12-29-2010 #1
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    Default Chip dumping?

    I was eliminated in 6th place as usual for double or nothing 10 handed NLHE. This hand looked really suspicous to me. Whats your opinions?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 1.15 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (UTG) (t582)
    MP (t1946)
    CO (t4351)
    Button (t850)
    SB (t6400)
    BB (t871)

    Hero's M: 1.94

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, 9
    2 folds, CO bets t400, 1 fold, SB raises to t600, BB raises to t800, 1 fold, SB calls t200

    Flop: (t2000) K, 4, 3 (2 players)
    SB checks, BB bets t51 (All-In), 1 fold

    Total pot: t2000

    Results:
    BB had A, A.
    Outcome: BB won t2120
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    Hey what's going on in....HOLY SHIT WTF?! First legitimate conspiracy post probably ever.

    This could just be really really bad play, but I would definitely make a note for both players and watch them closely if they do it again, or commonly sit on the same tables.

    Also, go to pokerprolabs.com and check to see if they commonly play/win the same DON's, or anything else out of place. If both of them are big time losers though, I'd say it's more likely bad play.
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    Something similar , just bad players , overall he was shoving a lot from button and SB.Can't convert this one , (iPoker) , flop is not important anyways.

    NL - Holdem - 4 players

    BTN: 3,904.00
    SB: 8,216.00
    BB: 1,456.00
    Hero (UTG): 1,424.00

    SB posts SB 600.00, BB posts BB 1,200.00

    Pre Flop: (1800.00) Hero has J:club: 4:spade:

    fold, fold, SB calls 600.00, BB checks

    Flop: (2400.00, 2 players) T:club: 7:club: J:heart:
    SB checks, BB bets 256.00, fold

    BB wins 2,400.00
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  4. 12-29-2010 #4
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    Also on another game - he min-raises and folds to 2.6:1 pot odds.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds (4 handed) -

    Hero (SB) (t4218)
    BB (t1984)
    UTG (t5120)
    Button (t2178)

    Hero's M: 7.03

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 7
    UTG bets t800, Button raises to t2178 (All-In), 3 folds

    Total pot: t2200

    Results:
    Button didn't show
    Outcome: Button won t2200
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  5. 12-29-2010 #5
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    I went out in 6th place after this hand, probably why it sits uneasy with me. He did show the aces, but even if the big stack had no pair he is priced into a draw for runners. 40:1 on his money with the chance of eliminating player #6 and hitting the money.

    I did send a note to Pstars to get their input.
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    It seems to have been poor play. The short stack here plays and wins most DON's. The big stack that appears to chip dump plays and looses mostly. They don't normally play the same ones, this was just a horrible play that I feel cost me the money. Oh well
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    So I wrote a letter to Pstars staff. They investigated it and found nothing.

    Now I am running extremely unlucky. I am down 800BB with an expected value of +150BB. I guess I will think twice before writing support again if this is the outcome. Or maybe it is all just a coincidence. Either way, I am done with Pstars for a week.
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    aghhhh happens all the time...gotta love getting rebates from colluding players frozen accounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd31 View Post
    aghhhh happens all the time...gotta love getting rebates from colluding players frozen accounts.
    LOL because it actually happens often
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    All I can say is that my actual and my EV went in very different directions since the email. A difference of about 1K BB's!
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